Pastels or Super pastels

Taking a poll, what do you see. I will try to post more/better pics upon request.

04F50
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file.../5/5/04f50.jpg

04F51
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file.../5/5/04f51.jpg

04F52
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file.../5/5/04f52.jpg

04F53
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file.../5/5/04f53.jpg

04F54
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file.../5/5/04f54.jpg

04F55
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file.../5/5/04f55.jpg

The reason I am posting this poll is because the sire is a "lemon blast" and dame is a "normal".
To me 04F54 and 04F53 both look like "killer blasts" which would tell me the dame is a pastel not a normal. I'm getting off topic a little, anyways... What do you think?

Pastel, Pastel, Pinstripe, Lemonblast, Lemonblast, Pastel

Not to get too far off topic, but that Pin is pretty hot :gj:

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Originally Posted by Bigfish1975

Pastel, Pastel, Pinstripe, Lemonblast, Lemonblast, Pastel

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I see the same.

Thank you all. Could I ask why you say they look like Lemon Blast's and not Killer Blast's. I mean, what are the determining factors of that decision? Please don't say because the same is a normal, cause that are some great outcomes of 7:8 having pastel in them.

You oculd just post the parents so we could figure out if the dame was a pastel or not.

Killer blast hatchlings would not have so much orange on them and their blacks would be lighter. They will darken after a few sheds.

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Originally Posted by Seven-Thirty

You oculd just post the parents so we could figure out if the dame was a pastel or not.

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https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...1&l=9270dc2b73

This is a album of the clutch in question. She is 10+ years old she was "8 to 10 years old" when I got her. the previous owner said she was a normal, but he also called a lesser a pastel.

Just looked at the pics and she looks like a good mom normal. The supers tend to have a lot more blushing on the head and throughout the markings. You will have a varying degree of differences between babies and some can fool you a bit. But mom is for sure not a pastel so supers and killers isn't a possibility. The babies all look great though. Congrats.

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Originally Posted by Bigfish1975

You will have a varying degree of differences between babies and some can fool you a bit.

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Thank you. I just didn't realize there could be that big of a difference. So in my ignorance I thought maybe she was a very poor quality pastel who lost most if not all her yellowing and blushing. Thank-you again for explaining this to me.

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Originally Posted by Bigfish1975

The babies all look great though. Congrats.

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Thank-you. The last neonate from this clutch hatched out the other day, it was a pastel as well.

No problem. I'm on another thread for some babies of my own. I'll be updating that and probably asking opinions on my BELS.