Expecting eggs

This female has been off feed since March after locking with one of our males. I think that I may have missed her ovulation because this is my first go at this and I was not sure what I was looking for. Her last shed was 31 days ago and I was hoping to find eggs either yesterday or today. I wanted to see what everyone thinks about where she is at in the process.

Thanks

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Her bottom half does look large, but not bigger than her top half. If she was a few days from laying, you would see a large bulge close to her tail, like she's about to drop a big one. Has she been layhing perfectly coiled ? And been a little active the past couple days?

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I woke up this morning and found her like this...
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8 big beautiful eggs!!! I was not expecting that many since it was her first time laying. We are so excited and can't wait for the babies.
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Congrats!!


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Awesome!! Congrats! I was going to say with a ridged back like that she couldn't be far away! Now the wait begins!

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I really love that pic of her protecting her eggs!

Nice congrats! :D

Yeah the ridged back and you could see the eggs outline also at her lowest part :D

Now it is a 60 day stare at the incubator ! :P

Thanks everyone. I feel like a proud father lol.

When do I candle them to check for veins?


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Thanks everyone. I feel like a proud father lol.

When do I candle them to check for veins?


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Before you put them in the incubator

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Awesome!! Congrats! I was going to say with a ridged back like that she couldn't be far away! Now the wait begins!

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Yes this ^^^. Congratulations. The wait is absolutely horrible. Take good care of those eggs!

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Before you put them in the incubator

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They are already in there. Is it safe to take them out or should I just leave them?


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They are already in there. Is it safe to take them out or should I just leave them?


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Yea they'll be fine just don't leave them out to long.. I need to do a video on just how hardy ball python eggs really are.. I use to be like uber careful with them.. No I've seen that even with incubator temp spikes and being rolled or attached to moldy dead eggs for 60 days..

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They are already in there. Is it safe to take them out or should I just leave them?


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Mark the tops of the eggs so that you can put them back right side up and carefully candle. If you do that the only issue you have is that you are letting the heat out of your incubator.

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Yea they'll be fine just don't leave them out to long.. I need to do a video on just how hardy ball python eggs really are.. I use to be like uber careful with them.. No I've seen that even with incubator temp spikes and being rolled or attached to moldy dead eggs for 60 days..

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Thanks. That is good to hear because I am nervous about doing something wrong.


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Nice! Congrats, now the long wait. Real hard not to stare at them all day!

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Nice! Congrats, now the long wait. Real hard not to stare at them all day!

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I have been checking on them like every 20 minutes when I'm home. Haha.


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I have been checking on them like every 20 minutes when I'm home. Haha.


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I don't know what kind of incubation setup you have but be really careful with this. There are people on here that had problems with temps and humidity because they were doing this . I know with my setup if the temp outside my incubator is around 75 it can take the thing about two hours to come back up to temp. I am on ambient temps in my snake room now so it really never gets below 85 in there this time a year and the humidity is not a problem where I live so it is no big deal for me to open my incubator. The temptation is high, however every time you screw with the eggs you increase the chance of a problem.

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I don't know what kind of incubation setup you have but be really careful with this. There are people on here that had problems with temps and humidity because they were doing this . I know with my setup if the temp outside my incubator is around 75 it can take the thing about two hours to come back up to temp. I am on ambient temps in my snake room now so it really never gets below 85 in there this time a year and the humidity is not a problem where I live so it is no big deal for me to open my incubator. The temptation is high, however every time you screw with the eggs you increase the chance of a problem.

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The incubator that I have has a clear viewing window so I never have to open the door to let out any heat.



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The incubator that I have has a clear viewing window so I never have to open the door to let out any heat.

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Cool you are set. Mine are huge igloo coolers. I'm a cheapskate so no magic windows for me.

I figured I would give and update and ask a question. This clutch has been incubation for 51 days today. I have read that a lot of people cut at 52, since it is our first time we are nervous about cutting too early. The eggs are sunken in now but we feel that we should wait until at least day 55 (Tuesday) before doing anything. What do you guys think?

Thanks in advance.


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Wait until the first one pips before cutting.

I would suggest waiting til one pips or closer to day 60. You've made it this far, just stay busy the next few days so you aren't tempted!

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I figured I would give and update and ask a question. This clutch has been incubation for 51 days today. I have read that a lot of people cut at 52, since it is our first time we are nervous about cutting too early. The eggs are sunken in now but we feel that we should wait until at least day 55 (Tuesday) before doing anything. What do you guys think?

Thanks in advance.


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I haven't had any clutches yet, but I've read the same stuff as you. But after thinking about it and reading about how others do it the ONLY reason to cut early is to see what you've got. But even then, with a lot of morphs you might not be able to tell from a little cut in the egg (pied with low white and the white is underneath, etc) and sometimes you need to wait for their first shed to really be sure. So all you're cutting early for is a chance to see what morphs you got.

I understand the wait though, trust me. My gf and I are breeding chameleons too and we've been incubating eggs for almost 8 months now and they might not come out for another 4 (or even longer).

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. My gf and I are breeding chameleons too and we've been incubating eggs for almost 8 months now and they might not come out for another 4 (or even longer).

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Holy cow! I had no idea they incubated so long!

Pics when they hatch!!!

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I understand the wait though, trust me. My gf and I are breeding chameleons too and we've been incubating eggs for almost 8 months now and they might not come out for another 4 (or even longer).

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That's crazy I thought 60 day was long!!



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Pics when they hatch!!!

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I will definitely post some pics then they pip.


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I will definitely post some pics then they pip.


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I'm not hatching them but I'm anxious. Lol. I can only imagine how you feel

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I'm not hatching them but I'm anxious. Lol. I can only imagine how you feel

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We r constantly checking for pips. Lol.


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We r constantly checking for pips. Lol.


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They haven't popped yet

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They haven't popped yet

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I would just let them pip on their own. You aren't having any issues so why cut? What is the incubation temperature in the egg tub and the humidity percent? I think you still have time, and should just let them all come out on their own.

There was sposed to be a question mark at the end of that lol.

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I would just let them pip on their own. You aren't having any issues so why cut? What is the incubation temperature in the egg tub and the humidity percent? I think you still have time, and should just let them all come out on their own.

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They have been at a constant 89 degrees and 100% humidity for the entire incubation period.

And still no pip... Lol.


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They have been at a constant 89 degrees and 100% humidity for the entire incubation period.

And still no pip... Lol.


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What was the pairing?

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What was the pairing?

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Orange Dream x Albino


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Very nice. I can't wait to see

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So we got a little anxious and cut the eggs on day 60!! And now they are starting to poke their little heads out of the eggs!!! Are we supposed to leave them in the incubator until they come fully out?


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Hi guys! I know a lot of people will change out the substrate for wet paper towels at this point but keep them in the incubator until they are all out. Some people keep them in the incubator til the first shed as well.

I put mine on wet paper towel as soon as they pip. I separate them and put them on damp paper towel as soon as they leave the egg and leave them on damp towel until firs shed. I do not leave them in the incubator but I am on ambient heating so I do not need to worry about heating baby tubs.

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Very nice!!!

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