Why cut?

So as I am getting back into breeding, I've been amazed at how many people cut their eggs and am left wondering why. It is impatience to see what you're about to hatch? Is it better for the hatching? I somehow doubt that. Is it needed at all? In the past I've always let them pip on their own, or slit the eggs at most after the first two pip in a clutch. What's the benefit?

Thanks in advance,

Dave

To see whats inside. Duh. :rofl::rofl:

I believe it's just impatience mostly.

The only time I ever really NEEDED to cut was because I had a hatchling with a twisted umbilical cord, which my catching that possibly saved her life.


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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

To see whats inside. Duh. :rofl::rofl:

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Yeah, pretty much what I expected. LOL

Dave

I cut the rest of my eggs a good day after the first 5 had already pipped. One baby who made it hadn't pipped on its own. I may have saved it, or it may have just been taking its time. One baby that died was twisted in its umbillical cord. Could I haved saved it by cutting earlier? Perhaps, but I don't know if it was worth the risk to the others. In doing some research, I found there were more possible complications than people let on to.

Not impatience at least not on my end since I cut at day 58 or 60

A long time ago while visiting NERD, I learned that sometimes not everything was going as smoothly as it should, while rare the egg tooth sometimes break, matter of fact that weekend 3 hatchlings had drowned because of it, since than I cut my eggs. I do not cut out of curiosity but just as an extra step to put all the chances on my side (same thing when I use an incubator instead of relying on the female). Since I have also experience with twisted umbilicus which I also solved successfully.

Sure there are impatient people cutting 5 to 10 days before the eggs are due and cutting HUGE holes VS a small flap and this could possibly jeopardize the hatchlings, allowing them to dry out and be exposed to bacteria, and to me that is not worth it, if you manage to wait 50 days you can wait another few more and cut when the first animal pips or when you know that you clutch is due.

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Not impatience at least not on my end since I cut at day 58 or 60

A long time ago while visiting NERD, I learned that sometimes not everything was going as smoothly as it should, while rare the egg tooth sometimes break, matter of fact that weekend 3 hatchlings had drowned because of it, since than I cut my eggs. I do not cut out of curiosity but just as an extra step to put all the chances on my side (same thing when I use an incubator instead of relying on the female). Since I have also experience with twisted umbilicus which I also solved successfully.

Sure there are impatient people cutting 5 to 10 days before the eggs are due and cutting HUGE holes VS a small flap and this could possibly jeopardize the hatchlings, allowing them to dry out and be exposed to bacteria, and to me that is not worth it, if you manage to wait 50 days you can wait another few more and cut when the first animal pips or when you know that you clutch is due.

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You nailed it!
I'm a little impatient though and cut at day 55.


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Once I get my first clutch pipping I'll start cutting, but how do you tell if there's a twisted umbilicus? Do you just have to hope it's visible when you do cut or do you move the snake around to try to see it?

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Originally Posted by bks2100

Once I get my first clutch pipping I'll start cutting, but how do you tell if there's a twisted umbilicus? Do you just have to hope it's visible when you do cut or do you move the snake around to try to see it?

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Year before last I lost 2 Lesser X Mojos from twisted cords.
One I didn't see and the other I tried to untangle but I think it was a little too late.

For me it has 0 to do with impatience. It takes away the chances of the snake not being able to pip on its own, and drowning in its egg.

When I first had an interest in breeding BPs, I looked into this topic as well. I asked a lot of other breeders if they do or don't cut eggs. I found a few different reasons people cut and those who don't. Some said "Let nature take its course". My thought was, How are you "letting nature take its course" unless you're maternally incubating. Most breeders I found remove the eggs. Put them in an incubator and control everything. I feel if I'm going to control all of this, I'm responsible for making sure the hatchlings have every opportunity to hatch successfully. I came to my decision to cut eggs only after I've found a hatchling pip or slice its own egg. I make a nice flap, check that the hatchling is moving and not twisted up. I have found and corrected 2 hatchlings twisted in their umbilicus. Half the time I can't even tell what the morph is at the time. They tend to make their way out within the next couple days.