Second feeding

Based upon info gathered from some tips and very helpful knowledge on a separate post I bought a hopper today for ziggy's second feeding. Question is this...leave it alive and monitor very carefully or knock it against the wall once or twice and drop it in knocked out bleeding from the skull (candy coated) ??? Let's hear those opinions, pros and cons !!!


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Feed live and monitor, in this case, and then consider working towards making the switch to F/T.

Please don't knock any live animal against the wall. Pre-killing is an option but it must be done correctly. Cervical dislocation is the most common method and is considered humane.

Did it eat a live, pre killed, or f/t first feeding? Since this is the second feeding you should feed whatever the bp was eating before you bought it. Ik a lot of people do it but personally I am against killed a live rodent unless you use a co2 chamber but if you decide to kill it then make sure it is dead before you feed. Being how small hoppers are you could drop it in alive and it is unlikely anything would happen.

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Originally Posted by Snake Judy

Please don't knock any live animal against the wall. Pre-killing is an option but it must be done correctly. Cervical dislocation is the most common method and is considered humane.

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Actually the only killing method that is considered humane is by co2. I think this is according to the American Veterninary Association. But if you don't have the things to make a co2 chamber and can't get it before feeding time then I would say Cervical dislocation would be the next best option even though I still disagree with it. Just make sure it is done quickly and painlessly.

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Good info thank you. And I promise you I was not looking forward to knocking it against the wall. I was only going with the options given to me by another BP owner who didn't seem to have a clue....so sincerely my apologies if I offended anyone. And the first feeding was a pinkie thawed but wasn't big enough and only wanted to eat it because we moved it around a little like it was roaming his home.


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If Co2 is used that's displacement/starving for O2......then more or less that would be suffocation so maybe a ziploc bag would work ???


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If Co2 is used that's displacement/starving for O2......then more or less that would be suffocation so maybe a ziploc bag would work ???


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I would not do that. It would take awhile and be painful. Co2 only takes a couple minutes and they just fall asleep. Just feed it live, its size shouldn't pose a risk but still keep on eye on it.

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I just dropped it in live and it didn't take 3 seconds he was on it !!! I think live feeding with a careful eye is going to be my choice for meal time.


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so maybe a ziploc bag would work ???

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Dude...or Dudette, stop...just STOP! Stop listening to idiots, and stop getting creative. Drop the freakin hopper in the enclosure and let your snake do what snakes have been doing since the dawn of flippin' time.

No bashing of craniums and no asphyxiation bagging fetish junk.

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EDIT: See, the snake won! They usually do.....

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I just dropped it in live and it didn't take 3 seconds he was on it !!! I think live feeding with a careful eye is going to be my choice for meal time.


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If you can get frozen you should do that IMO just thaw, heat and feed. Live can be done successfully but you do need to know what your doing and react the correct way when you need to. I suggest getting some advice on live feeding or switch to frozen or read up on co2 and build a chamber.

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That seems more like a weanling or small. I was under the impression you were talking about a hopper mouse. Only bc I've never heard of hopper rat.

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Slim I'm a dude. And yeah I got that shortly before you posted !! Lol I don't want to do anything wrong not be one of "those guys". I want to be the best for my little guy and I want him to be at his best !! Completely understand your rage !! [emoji1303]


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I went to exclusively live feeding. I feed in separate tubs for this so I can watch and intervene if need be. I always keep a knife or something similar if they get a bad strike to stick in the rats mouth to bite on (kind of like for people something painful must be done biting a towel or similar just happens to be harder because a rat can bite through steel) occasionally they'll get a good scratch in. Happened to my female a couple weeks ago near her neck. A couple sheds will fix her up. If you're gonna stay on live (my preferred method) always watch until the movement stops.

I've had aggressive or curious rats want to crawl on mine or they kind of boop them and if they're not ready to strike at this time it can kill the option of that feed and you'll be holding a live rat a few days (be prepared for this)

Good luck!



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