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  • 06-08-2016, 08:00 PM
    Philip451
    Sudden death after laying.
    This year I was very excited to breed a Woma het Ghost female for the first time. I had purchased her as a baby, years ago, and she finally surpassed 1500g this spring.
    I paired her with two males this year. A Hypo-Black Pastel, and a Super Pastel Super Vanilla. They both showed locks, and she seemed perfectly healthy through her pregnancy.
    She laid last week, 5 big fat eggs. In the incubator they went, and she went into a new,clean tub. She did not take food this week, which didn't seem surprising to us, especially having just laid.


    Almost immediately, the eggs started turning blue, and after 3 days, it was apparent that all but 1 of them were dead. They were disposed of, and we will keep a close eye on the last.
    This has never happened to us, so we kept a close eye on her.
    She had a couple nasty defecation/urinations. But we thought this may have just been the usual post pregnancy gross-ness.

    This evening I checked on her, and she was dead. Stone dead. There was another of the abnormal poops in the tub, both other than that, she still looked perfectly healthy and normal. Not thin, or
    any other symptoms.

    Anyway, I was just curious if anyone had had an experience like this, or had any input.
    I will really miss this girl.

    http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...DSC_0045-2.jpg
  • 06-08-2016, 08:05 PM
    juggalosnakes
    Im sorry for your loss
  • 06-08-2016, 08:06 PM
    chrid16371
    Re: Sudden death after laying.
    I'm very sorry for your loss, she was such a beautiful snake. [emoji22]

    I'm sorry I don't have any input on cause...

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  • 06-08-2016, 08:11 PM
    Reinz
    Very sad story from Momma to eggs. :( I'm sorry for your loss and keeping fingers crossed for that one egg.
  • 06-08-2016, 09:33 PM
    John1982
    Sorry for your loss. How long have you had the males? Has she ever been introduced to either of the two before this breeding season? I suggest a necropsy on the female and fecals for the males.
  • 06-08-2016, 09:41 PM
    Philip451
    Both males have been in my collection over a year.
  • 06-08-2016, 09:48 PM
    AKA Dave
    Re: Sudden death after laying.
    Horrible news. Hopefully the one egg makes it. Really sorry to hear this.

    Dave
  • 06-08-2016, 09:53 PM
    John1982
    Re: Sudden death after laying.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Philip451 View Post
    Both males have been in my collection over a year.

    Could be an asymptomatic carrier for something nasty that wreaked havoc on your female. Just my thought/input on the situation and what I'd personally be checking into - if for no other reason than to rule it out.
  • 06-08-2016, 09:57 PM
    Caspian
    I have no idea what could have caused something like this, but you have my condolences. I know how horrible it can be to lose a pet.
  • 06-08-2016, 10:35 PM
    Lady mkrj58
    Re: Sudden death after laying.
    My heart goes out to you my the Ball RIP and Prayers to you and your family.⚘

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  • 06-08-2016, 11:38 PM
    greco
    Re: Sudden death after laying.
    That's sad news. Sorry to hear it. Good luck with the remaining egg!

    A few years ago I lost a corn snake soon after she laid slugs. (She had not bred with a male.) She had somehow developed an internal hemorrhage while laying, and I had no idea anything was wrong until I found her dead. :( Maybe that's what happened to your girl?



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  • 06-09-2016, 01:11 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Sudden death after laying.
    Several years ago we had two females that had been with us for years raised them up from hatchlings. They bred laid eggs and about two weeks later just died. My only guess is that there was something congenital that the physical stress of breeding exasperated and it finally gave way, thus killing them.

    Like other animals including humans they can have heart, brain, kidney, liver all kinds of problems. I remember Pete Kahl I think it was or maybe Ralph years ago telling me a story about a Lucy back when they were 100k passing in his hands from what was later found to be an aneurysm.

    So you just never know when it's sudden and onset like that.


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  • 06-09-2016, 02:50 AM
    stickyalvinroll
    Idk but this happens all the time in other animals too including humans. Sorry for your loss
  • 06-09-2016, 04:46 PM
    Philip451
    Thanks for the input, and condolences, folks.
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