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Eye catchers
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That champagne is lovely! Beautiful noodles
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Totally beautiful albino and I'm not even a fan of that morph lol love the bumble bee as well <3
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I just realized how dirty my racks look :puke2: its time everything gets blown off and scrubbed anyway.. rest assured that is just aspen or Reptichip that falls on the ledge. :gj:
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Love that Albino!
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Originally Posted by Deborah
Love that Albino!
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My founding female came from Eugene Bessette who had one of the only verified lines of HC albinos. My female has never had her colors bleed together. Because of that the animals that are hets that she produces are and stay some of the cleanest sharpest you'll see. I'll post some examples.
This is my my 2008 HC Albino
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...985ad405a3.jpg
This is a 2011 spider het HC Albino
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...6298d0234d.jpg
I'll have to get pics of my spider HC Albino that girl produced.
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Please tell me they don't live in those bins permanently....
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Originally Posted by Hypancistrus
Please tell me they don't live in those bins permanently....
Ok they don't live in those bins permanently..Sometimes people pay me money and they get to go live else where.
I'm a breeder not a pet owner. If you'd like email me ed@wildmorphs.com and I'll be happy to go through why racks aren't just ok for them but they thrive in them, so as to put your mind at ease
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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
Ok they don't live in those bins permanently..Sometimes people pay me money and they get to go live else where.
I'm a breeder not a pet owner. If you'd like email me ed@wildmorphs.com and I'll be happy to go through why racks aren't just ok for them but they thrive in them, so as to put your mind at ease
I use racks too... but at least my snakes can adopt a position besides "curled in a ball." My rack bins are over 3' long and nearly 2' wide. There's racks... and then there's cruelty. This is cruelty.
"I'm a breeder..." translates in this case to "I factory farm these animals," and then we wonder why the animal rights groups have such a field day with our hobby.
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Originally Posted by Hypancistrus
I use racks too... but at least my snakes can adopt a position besides "curled in a ball." My rack bins are over 3' long and nearly 2' wide. There's racks... and then there's cruelty. This is cruelty.
"I'm a breeder..." translates in this case to "I factory farm these animals," and then we wonder why the animal rights groups have such a field day with our hobby.
Not really sure what you're talking about the only ones curled into a ball are the ones I'm holding. :gj:
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ALRIGHT!! for those that feel like they have found some evil doer let me clear things up for anyone that is Assuming things Let me clear a few things up.
These animals are adults and the rack behind them is a baby rack for animals 1 year and under or 300 grams and under. We do not keep adults in those little tubs.. LOL
Pastel lesser
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Hypo
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Here are some adult tubs just so everyone will put down the torches and pitch forks and go back to their poptarts
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Juvis and smaller males stay in tubs like this they are 24x16x7
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...psa0e970c3.jpg
big males and adult females stay in cb70 racks as you can see from above.
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I think there's only one person on this thread that has a problem with your husbandry. Hint hint - it's not me. ;-)
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I think there's only one person on this thread that has a problem with your husbandry. Hint hint - it's not me. ;-)
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No I had a conversation with someone about the Champagne being in a small tub. I've been over this on FB but I'll go ahead and let the cat out of the bag here too..
He is a problem feeder that we have tried every trick in or 15 year tool box of keeping and breeding to get him to eat in a bigger tub. I've used black tubs as you see we have, hides, news paper stuffed in the tub, more hides than you could count, paper substrate, aspen, coconut, live feeders, frozen, mice, rats, ASF. He just shuts down he's crazy like that. But you put him back and a day later he's back on food. He's been 3 months before on hunger strike, get him back in the small tub and poof "give me food"
Something I learned along time ago is to give your snake what it wants not what you think it needs. I've had snakes eat before their first shed and then I've had them go a year off food, only to become an awesome feeder over night. I'd be willing to bet that only 80% or less of the Ball Pythons in captivity conform to the standard care sheet mold.
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Oh I agree. I had someone pick a fight with me over my ivory in a 15qt. He's about 1100g. He is a Fantastic eater in the small tub but won't touch a rat in a 32qt. We are going on 3 months now (i think) of a strike because he got moved to the bigger tub to try again. Hopefully he switches gears soon. Do what is best for your animal, not what other people think is best based on limited information.
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Must be nice to know it all and jump to conclusion, you must be an expert in Ball Python husbandry and troubleshooting? How many do you have and have produced again?
That's right you are not a fan of racks to start with even though you just purchased one a short while ago.
See the issue with your post is that somewhere there is also someone with limited experience like yourself that would say keeping a snake in captivity is cruelty and that would apply to you too.
What matters is to meet each specific animal's need and is has been PROVEN that smaller enclosure (extremely small for some) work.
Than again I guess not doing everything in your power and let an animal starve would be less cruel.
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Originally Posted by Hypancistrus
I use racks too... but at least my snakes can adopt a position besides "curled in a ball." My rack bins are over 3' long and nearly 2' wide. There's racks... and then there's cruelty. This is cruelty.
"I'm a breeder..." translates in this case to "I factory farm these animals," and then we wonder why the animal rights groups have such a field day with our hobby.
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Originally Posted by Asherah
I think there's only one person on this thread that has a problem with your husbandry. Hint hint - it's not me. ;-)
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No, I'd also be happy to see this kind of keeping fade into history.
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Than again I guess not doing everything in your power and let an animal starve would be less cruel.
We all know that occasional food strikes are to be expected, but if a simple change of habitat causes an animal to starve itself to the point of emaciation or death that's a pretty strong indicator that something is wrong. There's a lot of information available that suggests that animals raised in zero-stimulus environments are much less well-equipped to deal with minor stressors than those raised in more enriched, dynamic environments. (Example 1) (Example 2)
Here's a well-researched article on reptile enrichment for those interested in exploring the topic further.
They ARE very beautiful snakes, by the way.
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Freakie_Frog - Gorgeous snakes! Not only beautiful in their own right, but they look wonderfully healthy, as well! I'm not even a great fan of albino, and those that I've seen that I liked before were the faded ones, but yours is beautiful. I think my favorite is that Bumblebee Mojave, though... that snake glows.
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