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  • 05-27-2016, 05:08 PM
    danielwilu2525
    Is it necessary to cool down breeders?
    Is it? I heard that It benefits the males. Is it true that it "encourages" them to breed? Anything would help out! Thanks!
  • 05-27-2016, 05:18 PM
    JodanOrNoDan
    Most say no. I do not know from personal experience though. I live in South Florida and a very rarely ever heat or air condition the house. The cycle happens naturally in my environment whether it is needed or not.
  • 05-27-2016, 05:26 PM
    danielwilu2525
    Re: Is it necessary to cool down breeders?
    Thanks for the info!
  • 05-27-2016, 09:02 PM
    Eric Alan
    Re: Is it necessary to cool down breeders?
    Is it necessary? No. Did I have good luck doing it my first season and keep doing it again after that to keep up the good karma? Absolutely.
  • 05-27-2016, 09:15 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Never cooled, not needed. :gj:
  • 05-29-2016, 03:39 AM
    kylearmbar
    Re: Is it necessary to cool down breeders?
    I did last year, and didn't this year. and got an ovulation one day later then I did last year... If that tells you anything.

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  • 05-29-2016, 03:56 AM
    stickyalvinroll
    Do what works for you
  • 05-29-2016, 09:53 AM
    Albert Clark
    Re: Is it necessary to cool down breeders?
    Cooling is not a mandatory action to be successful with your breeders however there are risks. Some of the literature says cooling does help with follicle growth and maturation. Some breeders believe cooling is a necessary part to effectively condition breeders adequately. I am on the fence with it but it does make sense. I am afraid of the risks that's why I haven't implemented it in my collection yet.
  • 05-29-2016, 12:03 PM
    usaf21stsf
    Re: Is it necessary to cool down breeders?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Albert Clark View Post
    Cooling is not a mandatory action to be successful with your breeders however there are risks. Some of the literature says cooling does help with follicle growth and maturation. Some breeders believe cooling is a necessary part to effectively condition breeders adequately. I am on the fence with it but it does make sense. I am afraid of the risks that's why I haven't implemented it in my collection yet.


    What are the risks you mentioned? I have yet to hear there are risks
  • 05-29-2016, 01:30 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Re: Is it necessary to cool down breeders?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by usaf21stsf View Post
    What are the risks you mentioned? I have yet to hear there are risks

    RIs can happen. It is the most common.
    Not worth the chance or the stress.
  • 05-29-2016, 03:29 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: Is it necessary to cool down breeders?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by usaf21stsf View Post
    What are the risks you mentioned? I have yet to hear there are risks

    RI is the most common issue but it's a combination of things such as low temps and the stress of breeding. So it basically come down to how low do you cool and how you breed your animal.

    The best answer so far is do what works for YOU, and the only way to know is by trying different things.



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  • 05-29-2016, 03:51 PM
    BFE Pets
    necessary? no. they will breed regardless. Do I cycle? yes. but not to the extent of others. but I also breed other species besides ball pythons. I turn off my belly heat at night and lower my ambient temps by 5 degrees. does it help the bp's out? idk i've just always done it that way and it works for me.
  • 06-03-2016, 07:03 PM
    BlueEyeExotics
    Re: Is it necessary to cool down breeders?
    So, if you do not cool them how do you know when it is time to pair them together, or do you just follow normal breeding season rotations and start at the right time? What if you want to breed year round?
  • 06-03-2016, 08:20 PM
    fatSNAKEs
    Re: Is it necessary to cool down breeders?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BlueEyeExotics View Post
    So, if you do not cool them how do you know when it is time to pair them together, or do you just follow normal breeding season rotations and start at the right time? What if you want to breed year round?

    You'll get varied answers here as well, depends on the snake breeder. Some (mb most?) breed seasonal, likely fall into Spring, but others esp with those with a large # of animals breed year-round. Over time you also might get a feel for some animals that may be more productive and breed at specific times of the year. I don't cool and typically breed seasonally fall-into-Spring, although this year I've one clutch that I just began pairing in April and if successful, will breed late year. Hope this helps, cheers ...
  • 06-04-2016, 05:31 PM
    CD CONSTRICTORS
    With the lack of a cold snap in FL this past winter, I dropped belly heat to 85F and ambient temps to 72F (from 88F/75F).

    196/197 eggs good so far this season (1 infertile egg). Many of my females ovulated a month earlier this year compared to last year. So, yes, I believe dropping temps helps quite a bit.

    A few breeders down here didn't drop temps at all and have had a lot of slugs/infertile eggs.
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