Temperature Question For A RUB & First Time BP Owner

Hi guys, so as some of you may know, I am getting a baby BP in a few weeks and I am using a 5L RUB. I'm just having a little trouble keeping the RUB's heating up in the morning, where the basking temp is 87.7F and the humidity is 52%. I decided since I am doing tests, I would spray my RUB two times and immediately close the lid which kicked the humidity up to 56%, but dropped the temperature to 87.3F. Every morning, this part is important, my house is really cold, because the central heating always goes off at nights, and we need to turn the heating back on and wait a couple of hours before the house warms up ( and thus, the temperature in the RUB will go to 88F and higher ), will my soon-to-be snake be alright? I know you should have 88F but it's not really possible in the mornings until the house is heated up...

EDIT :: 1 hour after turning the heating on, the temperature in the RUB has hit 88.2F and is at 55% humidity ( after the spray ), though I can never be sure when the temperature drops below 88F while we are all sleeping and I just want to know if my little snake will be alright, I want him to be happy. I know I am probably overthinking this but I really want him to be healthy, happy, and feeding.

Are you using a thermostat to regulate your hearing device? What kind of heating device are you using? Where are you checking your temp bottom of tub or top of substrate?

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Thermostat and a digital thermometer and hydrometer. Using a heating pad that goes beneath the RUB. The probe from the thermostat is stuck using heat insulation tape close to the edge of the heat mat. This is driving me mad. The humidity dropped to 52% so I decided to just spray it a couple of times, and the humidity shot up to 80%! So I opened the lid to let some of the air out, briefly, and it's dropped to 65% humidity, I've left the lid locked and the temperature is dropping to 84.6F! Why?! It's only getting colder. I never thought this would be so blasted annoying. :(

20 minutes later, it's still dropping, now at 83.8F............................... I just don't understand...

My personal experience with rubs has never been good and was never able to maintain correct temps without the room it was housed in having the correct ambient itself. I felt exactly what you are.For all the messing about that went with it I went with a viv and a ceramic as it was a pet and felt it looked better on display anyway. Not what you wanted to hear and someone may give you better news but that was my experience.

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I can't go with a viv because not only does my current home not have enough room for it ( though I am moving out in 1 year ), I am the absolute worst when it comes to DIY. I live with my grandmother and she can't help me with DIY either, nobody can. So the RUB is the best option I have. This morning, the temperature was completely normal, after putting the heating on, though the humidity was only at 52% so I sprayed it a couple of times and... hello 80% humidity? So I opened the tub to let some of that excessively humid air out then locked the lid back on and now I cannot get the temperature to rise - I am really annoyed.

First, do you have a water bowl in the rub yet or not? If not put one in for the testing.

Second, is the temperature you're measuring ambient temp or is it the surface temp over the heat pad?

I've found with a hatchling-sized tub that putting a small hide over the heat and the water dish on the cool side works well and I really don't have to spray much at all. The cool side "hide" is either the top of the warm side hide, or it's a tight corner of the tub closest to the water bowl.

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First, do you have a water bowl in the rub yet or not? If not put one in for the testing.

Second, is the temperature you're measuring ambient temp or is it the surface temp over the heat pad?

I've found with a hatchling-sized tub that putting a small hide over the heat and the water dish on the cool side works well and I really don't have to spray much at all. The cool side "hide" is either the top of the warm side hide, or it's a tight corner of the tub closest to the water bowl.

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Hey, yeah I did put some water inside the tiny water bowl I bought for my soon to be snake, and put it in the bottom right corner of the RUB which is in the cool end. The thermometer square probe end is inside the RUB on the hot side just behind the hide that is in the hot end. I feel like maybe I've buggered my 5L RUB by adding too many holes, I don't know, but all I have in place of it is a 9L RUB and I think that might be way too big for a baby BP which will probably be a little under a month old when I get him. When I spoke with the breeder he said the 5L would be better than a 9L RUB because if the 9L is too big then he might not eat. I would try using a new 5L RUB except they are sold out absolutely everywhere & staples website always refuses to accept payments...

EDIT :: I've taken two pictures so you can see what I have. http://imgur.com/a/B8DTD

Covering excess holes will work just wont look as pretty but will let you experiment.

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Covering excess holes will work just wont look as pretty but will let you experiment.

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I've already covered holes, didn't make a difference, so I just ripped them off. I could just use my 9L RUB like I said but I worry it's going to be far too big for my snake.

What brand and model thermostat are you using? Your thermostat probe should be in the center of your heating mat bc it can be cooler toward the edge. Don't put tape directly on probe bc it can give inaccurate readings which means it won't heat right. Only tape the wire not the probe itself to the heat mat. Move your thermometer probe to the bottom of substrate to the middle of the heat mat and check temp there after you make the change to you thermostat probe. Once you make those changes adjust your thermostat until the middle of the heat mat under the substrate is 93-94 and after you get it set to that move the thermometer probe back to top of substrate and place it where your snake lays and see if its around 88-90. You may have to thin out your substrate a little or use paper towels if your not getting the temps of 88-90 on top of substrate. Once you have it set right put the thermometer probe back under substrate near where your snake lays and as long as that temp stays where you have to set it for the top of substrate to be 88-90 then you will know the temps are good. I wouldn't set thermostat any higher then 94.

Habistat for the heatmat and thermostat, and I am not sure on the brand of my hydrometer. I am already using paper towels as the substrate and have the heat pad 1/3 under the tub. Trying out the 9L RUB with 12 holes only on the long sides, none on the lids, see if that helps. I've cut open a black plastic box and made a hide out of that and put it in the hot end, then put my old hide in the cool end. There's more space in this 9L RUB and I am hoping it's not too big for a baby...

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Habistat for the heatmat and thermostat, and I am not sure on the brand of my hydrometer. I am already using paper towels as the substrate and have the heat pad 1/3 under the tub. Trying out the 9L RUB with 12 holes only on the long sides, none on the lids, see if that helps. I've cut open a black plastic box and made a hide out of that and put it in the hot end, then put my old hide in the cool end. There's more space in this 9L RUB and I am hoping it's not too big for a baby...

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Is it a habitat dimming or habistat on/off thermostat? If its on/off it will drop a couple degrees before it starts heating again and then once it gets to temp it will shut off and then drop a few degrees and turn back on and will keep repeating this cycle. Like I said in last post make sure there is no tape on thermostat probe, you can put it on the wire right before the probe. Then move the thermostat probe away from the edge and put it right in the middle of the part of the mat that is actually heating the tub.

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Is it a habitat dimming or habistat on/off thermostat? If its on/off it will drop a couple degrees before it starts heating again and then once it gets to temp it will shut off and then drop a few degrees and turn back on and will keep repeating this cycle. Like I said in last post make sure there is no tape on thermostat probe, you can put it on the wire right before the probe. Then move the thermostat probe away from the edge and put it right in the middle of the part of the mat that is actually heating the tub.

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There's no tape on the probe itself, but there is on the wire so I can keep it down, and the light keeps flicking on and off in a pattern... the light stays on for 0.8s, then off for 0.8s, constantly. I have the thermostat set to the max which I assume is 96F and I am getting 64/65% humidity in this 9L tub and 85.F WTF?! Why won't it go any higher?? My house isn't cold, it's about 23 or 24C When I took the picture, the thermostat light went off, and a split second after it came back on again, in the same rhythm as I stated earlier.http://i.imgur.com/XMNL8Ot.jpg

Take your thermostat probe and move it so its under the tub sandwiched between the tub and mat. I would also recommend getting another thermometer so you can compare it to your other. You should get the acurite 00891, they are very accurate. Also you can put the probe on the hot spot and put the unit on cool side and get your cool temp and humidity, that's another reason I like them. I own 11 of them now. Your current thermometer could be giving an inaccurate reading. Does your thermometer have 2 probes, one for temp and one for humidity?

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Take your thermostat probe and move it so its under the tub sandwiched between the tub and mat. I would also recommend getting another thermometer so you can compare it to your other. You should get the acurite 00891, they are very accurate. Also you can put the probe on the hot spot and put the unit on cool side and get your cool temp and humidity, that's another reason I like them. I own 11 of them now. Your current thermometer could be giving an inaccurate reading. Does your thermometer have 2 probes, one for temp and one for humidity?

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Erm, that acurite 00891 appears to be an American product and I can't get it here in the UK, and my thermometer only has the one probe but it's a rectangular shape with a sort of arrow on the head of it. I'll try moving the probe so it's almost under the RUB.

Probe is moved, the light on the thermostat stays off for a little longer and the light stays on for a little less time, still no change in temperature, I am really getting p'd off because I cannot seem to get this right... it literally doesn't want to co-operate with me at all...

EDIT :: I don't know how but I managed to get it bang on 88.0F and 60% humidity but the thing is when I, for example, would need to spray the enclosure to up the humidity if, for example...

It is: Too low in humidity, or my snake is shedding...

It gets significantly colder in that RUB, dropping as low as 83F in the basking spot - I need to have a workaround that. It's a problem. Also, when I spot clean the RUB once a month, and put it back, the blasted RUB will most certainly be really cold for my snake... As shown in the picture, the pad is split up into two parts, the left at the edge is almost stone cold, but the part of the pad that my RUB is sitting on, it's really hot as it should be. Worried I might have a defective heat pad, I don't know...

Check Amazon UK, Ik there's some people in the UK that have them but Idk where they bought them. They also have so you can switch between cel and far. If you can find one over there get one. If not I would find some reviews on other thermometers and try them out. If your thermometer only has one probe you may have to put it in the tub to get your reading but idk. 65% humidity is good if that is your reading.

The reason it drops when you mist is bc cool water is getting on the thermometer probe. Mine does it too. It doesn't mean the belly heat dropped to 83 it means the probe did. It won't show an accurate reading until after dries and warms back up. You could put thermometer probe under paper towel so when you mist it don't get wet or at least not as wet. If you move it under the paper towel it will show a higher reading then above, as long as your not getting a reading over 94 your good. Did your temp go to 88 after you moved the thermostat probe under the tub?

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The reason it drops when you mist is bc cool water is getting on the thermometer probe. Mine does it too. It doesn't mean the belly heat dropped to 83 it means the probe did. It won't show an accurate reading until after dries and warms back up. You could put thermometer probe under paper towel so when you mist it don't get wet or at least not as wet. If you move it under the paper towel it will show a higher reading then above, as long as your not getting a reading over 94 your good. Did your temp go to 88 after you moved the thermostat probe under the tub?

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Well I think it did but leaving in the same place, 30 minutes later, it's dropped to 85.1F, but it's kept a 65% humidity. I can't actually get it under the paper towel, sadly, the wire gets stuck. It still worries me. The probe is completely dry and it's now showing 85.1F and I just don't understand why...

EDIT :: With some really awkward adjustments, I was able to wedge the probe under the paper towel though it has really raised it, not sure if it's a problem but the temperature is going up and is at 86.9F and the humidity is now reading 60%.

I would still look into getting another thermometer. That way you know if yours is accurate and if it is then you know if you need a more powerful heat mat or a thermostat that can be turned up higher. The humidity reading will drop since it is now under the paper towel.

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I would still look into getting another thermometer. That way you know if yours is accurate and if it is then you know if you need a more powerful heat mat or a thermostat that can be turned up higher. The humidity reading will drop since it is now under the paper towel.

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I've found the same thermometer I have. This is it: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lucky-Repti...and+hygrometer

Honestly I can't keep pissing money like this down the drain. It says the probe is protected from humidity in the description. Though it says it can be placed "outside" of the enclosure, how would it read humidity? Wouldn't it just read the humidity in the room rather than inside the tub itself? I'm confused...

Anyway, I actually have my thermostat on the maximum temperature so I can't raise it any higher otherwise I would have done that already. The temperature with the probe UNDER the paper towel, has hit 88F exactly and has 61% humidity.

Yeah Ik it can get expensive but once you have everything set up right it will only be food your buying. I wouldn't get the same thermometer again bc if they are calibrated the same they could both be giving inaccurate readings. I would look around and read reviews on others with probes and get one with good reviews and then compare to the one you have. Another option would be a good ir temp gun. That way you can take the temp anywhere with a click of a button.

Yes I seen that you said your thermostat is all the way up but if you can't get a temp high enough you may have to buy a new one that let's you set your temp higher.

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Yeah Ik it can get expensive but once you have everything set up right it will only be food your buying. I wouldn't get the same thermometer again bc if they are calibrated the same they could both be giving inaccurate readings. I would look around and read reviews on others with probes and get one with good reviews and then compare to the one you have. Another option would be a good ir temp gun. That way you can take the temp anywhere with a click of a button.

Yes I seen that you said your thermostat is all the way up but if you can't get a temp high enough you may have to buy a new one that let's you set your temp higher.

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Would this suit it? I buy this, then just open the lid, press the gun close to the paper towels and see what it reads? https://www.amazon.co.uk/IR-Infrared...ature+infrared

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Would this suit it? I buy this, then just open the lid, press the gun close to the paper towels and see what it reads? https://www.amazon.co.uk/IR-Infrared...ature+infrared

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Yes that will work as long as the reviews are pretty good. It says that its accuracy + or - 1.5 degree just so you know. You may be able to find one that has a 1 or .5 degree accuracy but either way just keep that in mind when your taking temps with it no matter which one you get.

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Yes that will work as long as the reviews are pretty good. It says that its accuracy + or - 1.5 degree just so you know. You may be able to find one that has a 1 or .5 degree accuracy but either way just keep that in mind when your taking temps with it no matter which one you get.

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You've been really helpful, thank you! I appreciate you also baring with my frustration, I do come with good news. I moved the probe back to the side of the pad because I noticed it was actually really cold compared to the middle, and the thermostat isn't flickering anymore and has a solid light - take a look at this.

My thermostat appears to cap at 94F, so I don't think it'll ever get any hotter than 92F. Hopefully, I have it nice and set. Granted, this IS my 9L RUB that replaced my 5L RUB since I think I buggered it - I'm replacing the TINY water dish with a slightly bigger one tomorrow, I hope my hatchling will be happy in there. Two hides, one on the hot and one on the cold. I hope he won't rub against the little arch that I've cut to have a makeshift hide.
http://i.imgur.com/w3DUSWk.jpg

Now managed to hit 92.3F. : ) Awesome!! My thermostat is now flickering a little bit. I think... I might be good to go?

EDIT :: Now at 93F. Light is calming down a little on the thermostat.

Good I'm glad its working! As long as everything stays good I would say your good! If you do ever get another bp I recommend getting a thermostat you can set higher lol that way if your temps are to cool you can just turn it up until your good. Maybe when you moved your probe back to the edge, the edge was reading lower than under the tub so its working harder to get it up to temp therefore making the middle the correct temp lol who knows maybe it just decided to work again. All that matters is its working now. Hope it stays that's way! I have my reasons for putting the probe between tub and mat but if its working for you I can't argue with that!

You can also take a lighter and melt the edges of the hide you cut so there will be no chance of injury. Just make sure its cool before you put it back in.

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You can also take a lighter and melt the edges of the hide you cut so there will be no chance of injury. Just make sure its cool before you put it back in.

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I do have to ask, since I wedged the probe under the paper towel, the temperature peaked at 93.4F, but when I moved it out, and hung it so just the tip is basically touching the paper towels, the temperature on the thermometer displays 87.4F, which is quite the difference, does it actually mean I still have a problem or does it mean everything is okay? Let me show you what I mean.

This figure may drop in the middle of the night since the heating is always switched off.

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No that will be ok. As long as your cool side is 78-82 everything else sounds ok. Also you could try putting the probe flat on the paper towel to see what I reads. Also your snake is laying on the paper towel therefore putting pressure on the tub which means it will be hotter with his weight on it. I'm not sure if I'm explaining it good enough. Its like if you lay your hand on a hot pan on the stove and it feels hot but if you press on the hot pan it will feel and be hotter, same thing with your snake laying on its hot spot. Please don't try to test my theory of hand on pan on stove lol jut take my word for it! A way to test this though is take your thermometer probe and lay it directly flat on paper towel and then find something heavyish that is the size of the probe or bigger and set it on the probe and you should see the temp go up.

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No that will be ok. As long as your cool side is 78-82 everything else sounds ok. Also you could try putting the probe flat on the paper towel to see what I reads. Also your snake is laying on the paper towel therefore putting pressure on the tub which means it will be hotter with his weight on it. I'm not sure if I'm explaining it good enough. Its like if you lay your hand on a hot pan on the stove and it feels hot but if you press on the hot pan it will feel and be hotter, same thing with your snake laying on its hot spot. Please don't try to test my theory of hand on pan on stove lol jut take my word for it! A way to test this though is take your thermometer probe and lay it directly flat on paper towel and then find something heavyish that is the size of the probe or bigger and set it on the probe and you should see the temp go up.

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No, that makes perfect sense. I'll go ahead and place my palm on the hot stove right now!... Nah just kidding. I left the temperature probe in precisely the same spot and it's gone up to 88.2F and the humidity is sitting at 60%, with the probe beneath the paper towels, I hit max of 93.4F, so with the snake's weight I'd imagine it would be a little over 94F if he went beneath the paper towel. Thanks so much dude. It means a lot. : ) I'd have to ask to borrow my uncle's soldering iron again before I could test the temp on the cool end, but with the heat mat being beneath around one third of the RUB, at the right temperature, I would assume the cool end would actually be around the 78-82F range.

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No, that makes perfect sense. I'll go ahead and place my palm on the hot stove right now!... Nah just kidding. I left the temperature probe in precisely the same spot and it's gone up to 88.2F and the humidity is sitting at 60%, with the probe beneath the paper towels, I hit max of 93.4F, so with the snake's weight I'd imagine it would be a little over 94F if he went beneath the paper towel. Thanks so much dude. It means a lot. : ) I'd have to ask to borrow my uncle's soldering iron again before I could test the temp on the cool end, but with the heat mat being beneath around one third of the RUB, at the right temperature, I would assume the cool end would actually be around the 78-82F range.

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Good everywhere is in check then! I would say with a temp of 88 that with your snakes weight its probably around 90-91 right where he's laying which is perfect as well. The heat mat won't affect your air temp so the cool side is probably around the temp of the room the tub is in. If it drops a little below 78 at night it will be ok as long as you have the hot spot right. If you get into the low 70s I would start to worry.

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Good everywhere is in check then! I would say with a temp of 88 that with your snakes weight its probably around 90-91 right where he's laying which is perfect as well. The heat mat won't affect your air temp so the cool side is probably around the temp of the room the tub is in. If it drops a little below 78 at night it will be ok as long as you have the hot spot right. If you get into the low 70s I would start to worry.

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I'm going to keep checking that thermometer obsessively. I won't be getting my snake until he has struck fed 5 times in a row, and he hasn't had his first meal yet. I think I'll also just leave the thermostat on despite the fact that it is a few weeks before I'll get the snake. I'd imagine when I mist the RUB for example, when my little guy is shedding, and the thermometer reads a lower figure, I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that the floor temperature hasn't actually decreased on either end? Also, once I have a stable temperature I guess I won't need the probe in there?

Since you don't have a heating device on the cool side you will want to take the air temp of the cool side. You can do this by hanging a thermometer with probe a little off the ground, you can also test the ground temp if you want but air will be good enough since you don't have a heat device. I would leave the thermometer probe in there forever lol or until you get a temp gun. That way your able to see if something goes wrong.

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Since you don't have a heating device on the cool side you will want to take the air temp of the cool side. You can do this by hanging a thermometer with probe a little off the ground, you can also test the ground temp if you want but air will be good enough since you don't have a heat device. I would leave the thermometer probe in there forever lol or until you get a temp gun. That way your able to see if something goes wrong.

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Um... I don't really understand... but uhh my temp gun should be arriving tomorrow from amazon, I could use the temp gun on the cool side and then place the thermometer's probe behind the hide so the tip is touching the floor, or something, so my snake won't start fiddling with it. I think that's what you meant?

If you have the temp gun then you don't have to have the thermometer probe in there if you don't want. I keep my thermometer probes in mine all the time so I can see changes in temps without having to use my temp guns. I still use my temp guns once or twice a day to compare to my thermometers. If you need the probed thermometer for humidity you might as well leave it in there.

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Temps seem fine. Haven't gotten my gun set up because I don't have a 9V battery, argh. I replaced the water bowl with fresh water as a sort of practice for my new daily routine, left the box for a while and the humidity is sitting at 65%. Hopefully that's alright and not too high. I did spill a tiny bit on the paper which might have kicked up the humidity a bit.

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Temps seem fine. Haven't gotten my gun set up because I don't have a 9V battery, argh. I replaced the water bowl with fresh water as a sort of practice for my new daily routine, left the box for a while and the humidity is sitting at 65%. Hopefully that's alright and not too high. I did spill a tiny bit on the paper which might have kicked up the humidity a bit.

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It didn't come with a battery? All of mine came with batteries. 65% is not to high, not even close to being to high.

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It didn't come with a battery? All of mine came with batteries. 65% is not to high, not even close to being to high.

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Nope it didn't. Anyway, the temperatures and the humidity around the RUB are completely fine... but one thing really, really frightened me. I wanted to see what the temperature is inside the hide, compared to just outside it at the entrance of the hide on the hot side... I put the probe in and left it in there for a while, I come back and see 100.8F!!! What the heck!! Why is it so much hotter?! Is that anything I should be freaking out about??

I took the probe out of the hide and left it just at the entrance to the hide and it was showing 90-91F which is normal, but it is WAY WAY WAY hotter inside that hide and I am scared to death that my snake will cook himself alive, good thing I noticed several weeks before I get him!

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Nope it didn't. Anyway, the temperatures and the humidity around the RUB are completely fine... but one thing really, really frightened me. I wanted to see what the temperature is inside the hide, compared to just outside it at the entrance of the hide on the hot side... I put the probe in and left it in there for a while, I come back and see 100.8F!!! What the heck!! Why is it so much hotter?! Is that anything I should be freaking out about??

I took the probe out of the hide and left it just at the entrance to the hide and it was showing 90-91F which is normal, but it is WAY WAY WAY hotter inside that hide and I am scared to death that my snake will cook himself alive, good thing I noticed several weeks before I get him!

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Do you have a light or anything over it? Only thing I could think of is that its building up heat in there but it shouldn't. Try testing under the paper towel in the same spot and see if you get the same temp or higher.

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Do you have a light or anything over it? Only thing I could think of is that its building up heat in there but it shouldn't. Try testing under the paper towel in the same spot and see if you get the same temp or higher.

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The only light that's above it is the room light which obviously wouldn't cause the heat to get trapped in that hide, I'll remove the hide, slip the probe under the towel and see what happens.

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The only light that's above it is the room light which obviously wouldn't cause the heat to get trapped in that hide, I'll remove the hide, slip the probe under the towel and see what happens.

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Put the hide back over after you slip it under

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Put the hide back over after you slip it under

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I put the hide over it and the temperature shot over 100F, I also lifted up the RUB and felt the mat and it feels way hotter than the other side, though that might be because the heat was trapped under the RUB... I've turned down the thermostat to 92F which was previously on around 96F though I find it odd that outside of the hide the temperature is perfect... I don't get it...

The mat must not heat consistently in every spot. Since your snake will spend most of its time hiding you will want to make the temp inside the hide 90

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The mat must not heat consistently in every spot. Since your snake will spend most of its time hiding you will want to make the temp inside the hide 90

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Well now I'm just feeling really upset... I thought I had everything set up, the entire RUB is fine but inside the hide it's over 100F... how the hell does that make any sense?? I'm completely stumped. Over 100F is utter madness. My snake would DIE in that. Seriously I'm pissed off that this is even happening when it SHOULDN'T...

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Well now I'm just feeling really upset... I thought I had everything set up, the entire RUB is fine but inside the hide it's over 100F... how the hell does that make any sense?? I'm completely stumped. Over 100F is utter madness. My snake would DIE in that.

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But your doing the right thing by testing. You didn't run out and buy a snake and set everything up quick, if you would of your snake would be burnt. You played it the smart way and I applaud you for that! It will be ok. If you get the hide temp to 90 and everywhere else is 80 then your still giving your gradient. It would be nice if the hide is 90 and the mat outside was 85 but 80 everywhere else is still perfect! You don't need to stress bc you have the time. I have another snake coming at the end of June and I have her setup running now and I'm still making little adjustments.

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Originally Posted by chrid16371

But your doing the right thing by testing. You didn't run out and buy a snake and set everything up quick, if you would of your snake would be burnt. You played it the smart way and I applaud you for that! It will be ok. If you get the hide temp to 90 and everywhere else is 80 then your still giving your gradient. It would be nice if the hide is 90 and the mat outside was 85 but 80 everywhere else is still perfect! You don't need to stress bc you have the time. I have another snake coming at the end of June and I have her setup running now and I'm still making little adjustments.

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But how am I supposed to get the temperature in the hide at 90F if it goes over 100F yet just outside it, it's completely okay?? I'm beyond confused, stressed, upset.........

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Originally Posted by Seviper

But how am I supposed to get the temperature in the hide at 90F if it goes over 100F yet just outside it, it's completely okay?? I'm beyond confused, stressed, upset.........

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So wait when you turn the thermostat down the hide goes to 90 outside is 100? But before the hide was 100 and outside was 90ish right?

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Originally Posted by chrid16371

So wait when you turn the thermostat down the hide goes to 90 outside is 100? But before the hide was 100 and outside was 90ish right?

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Regardless of what I had the thermostat set to ( It is a habistat pulse proportional, though I don't know if that matters... ), it would be over 100F in the hide and fine outside of the hide. I cannot get the hide to be at a reasonable temperature!

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Originally Posted by Seviper

Regardless of what I had the thermostat set to ( It is a habistat pulse proportional, though I don't know if that matters... ), it would be over 100F in the hide and fine outside of the hide. I cannot get the hide to be at a reasonable temperature!

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You will need to turn down the thermostat until the spot that was 100 is 90.

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