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Concerns about BEL?

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  • 05-20-2016, 02:47 PM
    SCWood
    Concerns about BEL?
    I need some ball python help! I had a customer bring me his BEL ball python. He just bought her from C Serpents at repticon. She's 8 months and 179g. When he holds her, she falls limp. Literally just dangles. She did it to me too. And it almost looks like she is corkscrewing... he said she wasn't like this when he first bought her and is concerned. I looked her over and spent a great deal of time discussing details and his setup is nearly spot on. Anyone know what could cause this?
  • 05-20-2016, 02:51 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Im interested in thoughts on this.
    Husbandry is always my first question.
  • 05-20-2016, 03:14 PM
    SCWood
    Re: Concerns about BEL?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    Im interested in thoughts on this.
    Husbandry is always my first question.

    His temps were a tad low which we addressed and he corrected. Humidity is 71%. Substrate is aspen. Cage is 40B. She also has tendency to hide under her water dish
  • 05-20-2016, 03:15 PM
    JodanOrNoDan
    I went through something like this with one of my BEL's. The snake is either very ill or, wait for it ....., it is a spider. Get it in different light or under a blacklight. If it is a spider the alien heads will appear to be more tightly packed then they would be in the base morph. In my case I hadn't intended to buy a spider and the breeder missed it. It is very hard to tell unless you know exactly what you are looking for.
  • 05-20-2016, 03:15 PM
    Jeanne
    Re: Concerns about BEL?
    Hopefully he quarantined tht snake..almost sounds like IBD. Last year I acquired a ball frm a local show, he appeared healthy.. 5 weeks later, he was dead. He displayed the same behaviors as U described. I will never buy another snake at another show.

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  • 05-20-2016, 03:57 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Could be anything from temporary over heating to chemical exposure. People always jump the gun and scream IBD without a single proof which can be very damaging in this hobby, people should really stop reading symptoms online and make their own diagnoses.

    If he is really concern no offence to you but he should consult with a qualified herp vet.
  • 05-20-2016, 03:58 PM
    Soord
    Re: Concerns about BEL?
    If it is ibd quarantine it immediately

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  • 05-20-2016, 07:33 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Re: Concerns about BEL?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Soord View Post
    If it is ibd quarantine it immediately


    All new snakes should be QTd for this reason.
  • 05-21-2016, 08:07 AM
    SCWood
    Re: Concerns about BEL?
    We are waiting on word from him to hear how she is doing
  • 05-21-2016, 09:43 PM
    SCWood
    Re: Concerns about BEL?
    She took 2 mice today and is much more active. Perhaps stress?
  • 05-21-2016, 10:00 PM
    Slim
    Perhaps dehydration and a really bad trip to the expo...
  • 05-21-2016, 11:31 PM
    SCWood
    Re: Concerns about BEL?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    Perhaps dehydration and a really bad trip to the expo...

    She has been improving with water intake! I think you're onto something. I'll let you know when the next update comes
  • 05-25-2016, 04:54 PM
    SCWood
    Re: Concerns about BEL?
    Okay! She has eaten two mice and he said she's been drinking a lot of water. She's been a little bit more curious so we are hoping for the best
  • 05-27-2016, 06:27 PM
    eclipse3
    Re: Concerns about BEL?
    My first thought is massive stress. A 40B is HUGE for a little baby like that! I am really glad you are helping him out 😊 Just make sure if he's keeping it in there that he's got about a zillion hides so it feels secure. Keep us updated :)

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