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  • 04-28-2016, 08:23 PM
    jennmbarker
    Eggs laid today already collapsing!!!!!!
    My ball python laid 4 eggs today and two of the four were roll outs but candled veins, but they are in the incubator at 87.1 humidity 99% and they have already started to collapse within hours!!!!! Please help!!!! This is my second clutch of my first breeding season ever!!!!http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...428_201329.jpg
  • 04-28-2016, 08:26 PM
    stickyalvinroll
    someone help quick I really don't know what to do here
  • 04-28-2016, 09:18 PM
    AerialArtist
    Is there a lid on the egg box? Try not to open it at all if possible. Hopefully someone will come along with more advice.
  • 04-28-2016, 09:24 PM
    jennmbarker
    Re: Eggs laid today already collapsing!!!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AerialArtist View Post
    Is there a lid on the egg box? Try not to open it at all if possible. Hopefully someone will come along with more advice.

    Yes there is a lid... I even put some moist moss around the eggs but not touching them. The two eggs collapsing most were the ones she had rolled out, but when I candled them they had veins. My female lesser laid 4 big eggs on the 17th and other then one egg having a egg window they all look as good as when she laid them. But this normal females eggs were half the size of the lessers eggs and none of them were stuck together, not even the two she had coiled up. But all 4 have veins so I incubated them all when I found them at 3:30 p.m. and they already started collapsing not even 4 hours later!!!!
  • 04-28-2016, 10:14 PM
    John1982
    Just give them a day and see how they look, I reckon. Not all eggs are destined to hatch, veins or no. Viable eggs can take a beating so try not to worry too much. So long as the perlite is mixed right you are already doing everything possible for those eggs. The only thing to do now is observe and learn from the experience.
  • 04-28-2016, 10:33 PM
    chilliscale
    Were the eggs found in the morning or this evening. Did they look deflated before they went into tub? I had one girl lay last year and the eggs sat in a dry tub for 2 or 3 days. They were slightly deflated like yours. A day in the incubator (24hours) and they fluffed right back up. If the humidity is right and they are destined to hatch they will be OK. You can also try using press n seal over the tub
  • 04-28-2016, 10:58 PM
    MarkS
    I like to seal my egg boxes tight with Press'n seal wrap

    You really don't need ANY ventilation in the box at all
  • 04-28-2016, 11:57 PM
    stickyalvinroll
    The eggs shouldn't look like that in 2 days even with the worst of set ups.
  • 04-29-2016, 12:57 AM
    AerialArtist
    Press-n-seal for sure and definitely don't open anything up unless you absolutely have to. That was my mistake early on. Good luck!
  • 04-29-2016, 01:28 AM
    Albert Clark
    Re: Eggs laid today already collapsing!!!!!!
    Also, if possible try to get the eggs out of the incubation medium and onto a diffuser. Is that hatch rite you are using?
  • 04-29-2016, 04:10 AM
    jennmbarker
    Re: Eggs laid today already collapsing!!!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chilliscale View Post
    Were the eggs found in the morning or this evening. Did they look deflated before they went into tub? I had one girl lay last year and the eggs sat in a dry tub for 2 or 3 days. They were slightly deflated like yours. A day in the incubator (24hours) and they fluffed right back up. If the humidity is right and they are destined to hatch they will be OK. You can also try using press n seal over the tub

    I went to work at 4 .m. And she hadn't laid yet and went I got home at 3:30 p.m. the eggs were there. And they didn't look deflated when I put them in the egg box!
  • 04-29-2016, 04:12 AM
    jennmbarker
    Re: Eggs laid today already collapsing!!!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Albert Clark View Post
    Also, if possible try to get the eggs out of the incubation medium and onto a diffuser. Is that hatch rite you are using?

    Yes it's hatch rite. I put the moist moss along the entire box lining the edges as soon as I found them deflated. They don't look any worse this morning then before I placed the moss in with them, so maybe they'll make it! Idk
  • 04-29-2016, 04:35 AM
    J.P.
    looks like the eggs are sweating. hmm, are the eggs wet to the touch? if yes, then what's happening here is egg fluids leaking out, not simple moisture (dehydration) loss from low humidity. it's caused by a problem with the egg membrane, not by your incubation method.

    some breeders have had success turning the situation around with elmer's glue, once dry it seals in the fluid. it's quite a common case with the chondro crowd, i have tried on a prematurely sweating gtp clutch and it worked. and have some anti-fungal foot powder ready because wet eggs will soon grow some mold.
  • 04-29-2016, 04:37 AM
    jennmbarker
    Re: Eggs laid today already collapsing!!!!!!
    This is what they looked like when I out them in. The two roll outs were really warm when I found them like the two she had coiled!http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...429_043340.jpg
  • 04-29-2016, 06:03 AM
    jennmbarker
    Re: Eggs laid today already collapsing!!!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jennmbarker View Post
    This is what they looked like when I out them in. The two roll outs were really warm when I found them like the two she had coiled!http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...429_043340.jpg

    I mean they Weren't really warm when I put them in!!!!
  • 04-29-2016, 07:37 AM
    Albert Clark
    Re: Eggs laid today already collapsing!!!!!!
    I still think it would be best to get these eggs on a diffuser ASAP. Most certainly they need to be out of the hatch rite. If it was vermiculite or a perlite/vermiculite mix I believe the result would be different.
  • 04-29-2016, 08:00 AM
    PitOnTheProwl
    http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1...psqar81urp.jpg

    Eggs don't need to be on anything IF the substrate is prepped correctly.
    I would bet your hatchrite is too dry, you are not the first one to have issues with that junk this week either.
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