Sex in snakes

guys i have the Dr. Mark Seward's - Determining Sex in Snakes

Learn how to tell the sex of any snake, safely and accurately with the techniques of probing and poping.
i don't have the probing tools so amtrying to find the sex with the popping method. the probing method is dangerous so i select the popping. am trying to do alla of i saw in the video . the snake doesn' allow me . he/she catch strong muscles. can't explaint itn:P
someone told me that you must hatching the snake for some time with some method to relax.
in my country we do not have reptile experiance.
what i must do?
the snake is 1 year old

i'm not an expert on this by any stretch of the imagination. that being said, i was under the impression that "poping" only works to determine sex if the snake is a hatchling and it won't work if the snake is more than roughly a month old. after that, you have to probe to determine sex.

Yes, popping anything older than a month or so is not only very difficult, but potentially dangerous. Especially if you have no experience with it. If you can, have a reptile vet probe it for you, or invest in a set of probes. They are not expensive.

if you do not have a place around that specifically sells reptile probes, check some medical supply places....the will most likely have something good to use.just look around on the net....and find something similar.

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Originally Posted by Shelby

Yes, popping anything older than a month or so is not only very difficult, but potentially dangerous.

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I regularly pop ball pythons of all ages. There is nothing dangerous about it.

-adam

I was waiting for Adam to tell me I was wrong. Hah..

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

I regularly pop ball pythons of all ages. There is nothing dangerous about it.

-adam

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can tell me some tricks please? beacuse my snake doesn't allow me. it strengt his muscles and i can't open the cloacal

popping older snakes is more of an art than a procedure .. dont force it .. try some hatchlings first to develope the proper technique.. in order to pop an older animal it HAS to be relaxed

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Originally Posted by Shelby

I was waiting for Adam to tell me I was wrong. Hah..

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I just didn't understand what you meant by "potentially dangerous"???

-adam

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if you do not have a place around that specifically sells reptile probes, check some medical supply places....the will most likely have something good to use.just look around on the net....and find something similar.

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No...stick to snake probes, not misc. medical instruments. There are several places where you can order them online.

www.tongs.com
www.beanfarm.com

etc...

K~

Sorry about that K~. The only reason I had suggested that is because the guy said ''in my country we dont have reptile experience'' .... I figured he was not in the US or Canada and might have some trouble getting a hold on something. I actually got the idea from my vet (go figure) when I asked him about probes....he just told me if I go that route just make sure to get something that has a really dull end and looks similar to a 'snake probe'. Guess he was wrong. Thanks for the correction :)

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

I just didn't understand what you meant by "potentially dangerous"???

-adam

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Well, I have heard of people rupturing things by being too rough.

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Originally Posted by Shelby

Well, I have heard of people rupturing things by being too rough.

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Wow, I've never heard of a rupture from popping ... not sure how that is even possible?? Rupturing membranes from probing though is unfortunately way too common.

-adam

Maybe people were just freaking out. I read in several places that you shouldn't attempt popping unless you've been shown how due to risk of injury. Is it not true? I was really curious about my baby cali king's gender, but I was afraid to try popping.

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Originally Posted by Shelby

Maybe people were just freaking out. I read in several places that you shouldn't attempt popping unless you've been shown how due to risk of injury. Is it not true? I was really curious about my baby cali king's gender, but I was afraid to try popping.

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I'd say definitely not true. The only risk I could see is not knowing what you're doing and trying to pop and adult that tries to take your face off for screwing with it.

-adam

honestly i dont care what the type of sex my snake is. i dont have the money for it either to get em tested and im not doing it by myself cuz known me id **** my snake up

So you can't injure a hatchling either by popping, Adam? It's good to know.

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Originally Posted by Shelby

So you can't injure a hatchling either by popping, Adam? It's good to know.

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Well, I guess if you were a complete idiot you could snap the snake in half trying to make it evert, but I can't imagine anyone with half a brain hurting a ball python by trying to pop it.

-adam

I just thought I would point out there are some species of snakes that should not be popped or probed while hatchlings.. "since this is a general topic.." Green tree Pythons being one of them .. as it has shown to cause some times serious spinal injury

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Originally Posted by RobertCoombs

I just thought I would point out there are some species of snakes that should not be popped or probed while hatchlings.. "since this is a general topic.." Green tree Pythons being one of them .. as it has shown to cause some times serious spinal injury

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Good point Robert, I use to own a male Biak (Houston Zoo stock no less) that was kinked ... I was told that it was from popping.

Since this topic was in the "Ball Pythons/General" forum I probably felt a little more lax than I should have been in thinking that everyone here was talking about ball pythons. Either that or my obsession for ball pythons is so out of control that I forget that there actually are other snakes out there! :twisted:

Thank you for the assist!

-adam

No problem .. I think allot of the fallacies associated with popping or probeing snakes stem from some one talking about a more delicate species and carry it over as a generalization.. information on the web is almost like gossip .. the story is totally different by the time it comes full circle.
I just thought it important to note.. that there are some that should not be sexed as hatchlings as the thread had taken a general direction :)

What else other than GTPs? How about baby colubrids? That's what I was thinking of people injuring.. they seem so fragile.

I only have first hand experience with the green tree pythons .. most colubrids are pretty tough, I would imagine allot of arboreal viper species are probably pretty fragile weighing in at only a few grams at birth and only able to take pinkie parts as first meals

Well I'm not planning on popping any baby vipers any time soon. :)