What kind of Python Morph do I have??

Hello,
I got my beautiful girl back in November and was told that she was a Black Pastel Spider. Since I got her though I have been taking a look at all the different types of pythons and to me she doesn't really look anything like a spider or a black pastel. I was hoping to get some help in either confirming what I was told or finding out what kind of morph she really is??

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By the pics. I don't see a spider head. Does it warble a bit. The pattern doesn't look black pastel to me. It looks almost like an axanthic. But it is hard to see from the pics.

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Google 'Black Bee Ball Python', and you'll find a few that look like her. 'Black Bee' is a 'Black Pastel + Spider'. The Black Pastel and Spider combined, to me, don't really look anything like Black Pastel or Spider alone. I have a Black Widow - Black Pastel, Pastel, and Spider combined, and he resembles her, other than also having a yellow flush on his sides from the pastel.

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Originally Posted by JAK Pythons

By the pics. I don't see a spider head. Does it warble a bit. The pattern doesn't look black pastel to me. It looks almost like an axanthic. But it is hard to see from the pics.

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Not it doesn't really. I'll try to post a few more pics. Maybe that will help. Thank you

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Originally Posted by Caspian

Google 'Black Bee Ball Python', and you'll find a few that look like her. 'Black Bee' is a 'Black Pastel + Spider'. The Black Pastel and Spider combined, to me, don't really look anything like Black Pastel or Spider alone. I have a Black Widow - Black Pastel, Pastel, and Spider combined, and he resembles her, other than also having a yellow flush on his sides from the pastel.

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I looked the black bee up and couldn't find any that really looked like her. Same markings but not the color. Nice to know you have something similar tho. Thank you!

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Originally Posted by Bellales

Hello,
I got my beautiful girl back in November and was told that she was a Black Pastel Spider. Since I got her though I have been taking a look at all the different types of pythons and to me she doesn't really look anything like a spider or a black pastel. I was hoping to get some help in either confirming what I was told or finding out what kind of morph she really is??

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Here's some more pics.

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You have to sort through the search results. Most of what Google returns are not Black Bee Ball Pythons. Here's an example of one that is:

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Originally Posted by Caspian

You have to sort through the search results. Most of what Google returns are not Black Bee Ball Pythons. Here's an example of one that is:

http://nicebalz.com/image/data/collectionsnake37.jpg

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Oh yes! The markings are definitely the same except for the stripe from the head. Does that come from the spider gene?

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You mean the stripe going down the back from the neck? That will vary from snake to snake. Here's a photo of Zyali, my Black Widow boy, for comparison:

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9yljn7k9.jpg

Yeah. And perfect. Your boy looks really cool. Thank you so much for the help. :)

My pleasure! Your girl is gorgeous. Zyali seems to get more yellow on his sides every week, so I'm curious how he'll turn out ultimately.

Thank you! And I bet! He's probably a neat little guy to watch grow. How old is he now?? Shes my first python but there like an addiction. I want a whole room full!

I got Zyali in September of last year... so I've had him about six and a half months now. He's up to about 475g, and I'm not sure how old he was before then - a tiny little worm. He arrived on 9/2, and my scale didn't arrive until 9/24, so that was his first weigh-in at 105g. He's been on a food strike for the past month, while he protested being switched to rats, so he hasn't gained weight in that time. I'm going to guess that he was a month old or so when I got him, so he'd be maybe eight months old now.

Incidentally, be cautious about Ball Python Addiction. She's your first girl... and I bought Zyali and Miqula at the same time. They were my first Ball Pythons. In six months I went from two to six, and I want more.

Oh that's awesome! I hope he starts to eat again soon. They can be pain in the asses sometimes. I had that problem with my girl when I first got her. She didn't eat for the first 2 months I had her. Finally started eating then had a horrible shed. Took her to the vet and she was dehydrated and to skinny for her age but just worked on her the last 3 weeks and she's all healthy again and eating like a pig.

And that's crazy! LoL I love how you went from 2 to 6 in such a short amount of time! I can't wait to get more. Would even love to maybe breed one day.

I think it probably is a black pastel spider. The spider head pattern doesn't show up with some morphs. I was looking into breeding a cinnamon with a spider and cinna bees all have more normal heads. It seems to be the same way with black bees from what I've found.

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/black-bee/ The last picture looks like yours I think.

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I think it probably is a black pastel spider. The spider head pattern doesn't show up with some morphs. I was looking into breeding a cinnamon with a spider and cinna bees all have more normal heads. It seems to be the same way with black bees from what I've found.

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/black-bee/ The last picture looks like yours I think.

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Thank you!! I appreciate the help and info.

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