Price on a Pied Male

I'm interested in getting a morph and came across a Pied in my area.
I'm just leary about it as I keep being told there are a lot of health issues with them, and I also don't want to get ripped off and pay too much.
I was curious as how much a 550 grams male Pied, I do believe he is a '14, (I know he's a little over a year old.) would go for.

In my area, 400-500 tops. 15 male pieds are 300-350

I've not heard of pieds having 'a lot of health issues'. I know some morphs have genetic issues like wobble and spine kink, but I haven't heard of anything specific to pieds.

I haven't either.

I will bite where did you hear about Pied having a lot of health issue? And from whom?

Price are variable depends on the amount of white as well and of course it is supply and demand especially since you want to but locally.



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Thank you guys for your feedback.
I guess that justifies me spending $400 on a snake:oops:

I use to work for a reptile facility and they always had problems with their snakes, mostly with Pieds. However, that facility wasn't very great.
My coworker told me today that they would need special lighting due to their coloring. I've searched everything I could find to shed some light but nothing came up on it so I decided to post here and get more opinions from other owners.

The snake I'm looking into is said to have regular bowl movements, sheds and eats very well.

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Originally Posted by Medusa22

Thank you guys for your feedback.
I guess that justifies me spending $400 on a snake:oops:

I use to work for a reptile facility and they always had problems with their snakes, mostly with Pieds. However, that facility wasn't very great.
My coworker told me today that they would need special lighting due to their coloring. I've searched everything I could find to shed some light but nothing came up on it so I decided to post here and get more opinions from other owners.

The snake I'm looking into is said to have regular bowl movements, sheds and eats very well.

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I have been raising and breedinf pieds and pied combos since 2009 and there is not issue with them and they do not require any special light.

Pet stores are usually the least knowledgeable source of information ;)


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Originally Posted by Medusa22

My coworker told me today that they would need special lighting due to their coloring.

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:rofl::rofl::rofl: This almost made me pee a little!! Sorry I'm not laughing at your suspense but that of your co-workers .... I will never understand why some people insist on offering information to others when they are clearly not knowledgeable of the subject ..... But at any rate, Kudos to you for seeking proper information before making a decision on an expensive purchase :gj:

The only issue my pied girl has had since she was a 90g worm is now just over a year later and about 1000g later, she had decided she didn't want to eat....its been about 4-5 months now. She is still fat and destroys stuff. Your co-worker is either messing with you or got some really bad info. They don't need any special lights. As for price, like everyone else said, depends on how much white, sex, supply and demand etc. I picked up my high white pied girl for $200 but that was because she was labeled a biter and non eater. She hasn't even made an effort to bite me in almost 1.5 years and she ate better than my boas as a baby.

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Originally Posted by Medusa22

My coworker told me today that they would need special lighting due to their coloring.

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OMG this reminds of the time I went to petsmart to get some mealworms and superworms and one of the employees told me that I had to smash the heads of superworms before feeding it because they can eat their way out of a reptile's stomach :O . LOL never mind gastric acid or the blunt force from the reptile's mouth.

Really, a piebald - aka pied - BP is no more different from a normal BP than a piebald - aka pinto - horse is from a bay. Piebald horses have been around for much longer than piebald snakes, with no color-related issues at all. Now, horses and snakes are a bit different, but I don't think any color-related health problems from piebald are likely to appear. Piebald animals have been appearing throughout nature for a very long time. The health problems that they have are directly related to the fact that their markings don't blend into their environment very well, which makes it difficult for them to hide, and other animals find and eat them. Personally, I wouldn't use any lights at all, but I know some people like them.

A related note on animal intelligence: I've seen a normal doe hide a piebald fawn in a logged-off unit full of white tarps, where slash piles had been covered up to keep them from getting wet prior to burning. Anywhere else, that fawn would have been glaringly obvious. In that one place, where they happened to use white tarps - usually they didn't use white - it was invisible until it moved. The doe stood out like a neon sign against those tarps - but her fawn was hidden.

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OMG this reminds of the time I went to petsmart to get some mealworms and superworms and one of the employees told me that I had to smash the heads of superworms before feeding it because they can eat their way out of a reptile's stomach :O . LOL never mind gastric acid or the blunt force from the reptile's mouth.

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There are reported cases of amphibians (specially those who swallow the pray whole) that died because superworms eat their way out. I've seen it myself in a pacman frog. Superworms have nasty "jaws" and they are not the natural prey of a lot of amphibians and/or reptiles.
Of course these cases are rare.
A lof ot "information" that circles around is false but sometimes these tips or myths have their source in real events that someone experienced. Never discard advice just because it comes from a stranger and never follow advice just because it comes from a friend. Always, always double check the information. That's the best thing you can do.
So, if someone told you pied morphs have health issues and they need special lighting: double check it, just as you told us you did.