Clutch #1 is starting to come out of the eggs

Here is the first one to come out of its egg, it is the smallest of the clutch and is 50 grams. I am unsure of the sex at this time as I am nervous about popping a tiny brand new snake. As for now I have rinsed it off and put it on moist paper towls. When should I attempt it's first feeding?? I will update this thread as the other five come out and their eggs and I transfer them from the incubator to the new tub, I will label the photos with what morph I believe the hatching to be, however feel free to correct me if you feel I am incorrect, if you do feel I am incorrect on what the hatching is please give your reason for disputing what I labeled it as (I feel it is only fair for educational purposes) :gj:

The pairing for this clutch was:
Bumblebee het Clown X Pastel

Hatching #1 - Pastel
http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/...psv8jxv7gk.jpg
http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/...psxzkj4lls.jpg

Congrats!

That looks like it should be a nice bright pastel judging by how light the head is.

Looking good so far. Busy pattern and a nice blushed head, very nice!

congratulation
love his/her busy pattern and blushed head. beautiful ! :colbert2:

Hatchling #2 - Pastel
http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/...pscuoyngid.jpghttp://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/...psszavl62l.jpg

Congrats on a successful breeding! Crackers!

congratulations on the first of the season, hope many wil follow for you

I like the flames on the first baby, too. What a pretty bab!

Hatchling #3

So I got back from fishing and Hatchling #3 was out of the egg. I originally said Killer bee when I cut eggs, a few members agreed .... a few other members said bumble bee. Now that is it out of the egg for proper viewing I am going to lean towards it being a really smoking hot Bumble Bee due to its lack of blushing in its black stripes. We'll see if that changes after a shed or two. Please feel free to voice your opinion :gj:

Hatchling #3 - Bumble Bee

http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5imrl7fc.jpg

http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/...ps29qtvkpj.jpg

http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/...pswdoymys5.jpg

Super clean pastel, and bee! Loving them!

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whoa babies!! :)

congratulations! they're all beautiful and that bee is smokin!

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When should I attempt it's first feeding?

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Once they are all out put all of them in the same tub using damp paper towel as substrate, wait until they have their first shed, separate them and feed them (I usually feed them 48 hours after they shed).

Congrats BTW :gj:

congrats, its always exciting to see new babies

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Originally Posted by Deborah

Once they are all out put all of them in the same tub using damp paper towel as substrate, wait until they have their first shed, separate them and feed them (I usually feed them 48 hours after they shed).

Congrats BTW :gj:

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Thanks Deborah, thats how I'm setting them up, as they come out of the eggs I'm moving them to this

http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/...psuipmbwsb.jpg

After they shed I will separate them and give them two days and then feed. I would like to start them all on rat crawlers (I prefer to not feed my balls mice) however the runt (Hatchling #1) is only 50 grams so I may have to go with a mouse hopper for it for the first few feedings unless I can find some runt rat crawlers. Hatchling #2 is 65 grams and Hatchling #3 67 grams. Hatchlings 4,5,and 6 appear to be about the same size as #2 and 3 but they are yet to come out of their eggs so we will see.

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Originally Posted by T_Sauer

I would like to start them all on rat crawlers (I prefer to not feed my balls mice) however the runt (Hatchling #1) is only 50 grams so I may have to go with a mouse hopper for it for the first few feedings unless I can find some runt rat crawlers. Hatchling #2 is 65 grams and Hatchling #3 67 grams. Hatchlings 4,5,and 6 appear to be about the same size as #2 and 3 but they are yet to come out of their eggs so we will see.

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You can try to offer them whatever you like, but ultimately getting them eating is the most important thing. I find it is easier to get them started with mouse hoppers because they are smaller so less intimidating. They are much more animated (more movement) which tends to create a stronger predatory response in the hatchlings. They also have more fur than rat crawlers which probably means more scent so a little stronger target. Once they are eating regularly getting them to switch to rat crawlers is usually not a problem. Congrats again. It looks like a pretty nice clutch.

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Originally Posted by T_Sauer

Thanks Deborah, thats how I'm setting them up, as they come out of the eggs I'm moving them to this

http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/...psuipmbwsb.jpg

After they shed I will separate them and give them two days and then feed. I would like to start them all on rat crawlers (I prefer to not feed my balls mice) however the runt (Hatchling #1) is only 50 grams so I may have to go with a mouse hopper for it for the first few feedings unless I can find some runt rat crawlers. Hatchling #2 is 65 grams and Hatchling #3 67 grams. Hatchlings 4,5,and 6 appear to be about the same size as #2 and 3 but they are yet to come out of their eggs so we will see.

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Very good :gj:, now as far as starting them on rats it can be done, even at 50 grams (pink rats which are 1 to 4 days are very small). I usually start everything on mice now, they are more enticing and give me a higher success rate when it comes getting my hatchling to take their first meal easily, they get switched to rats by meal 2 or 3 (the advantage is that I produce my own feeders).

Hatchling #4 - Pastel

http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/...psdcwwa3wf.jpg

http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/...pskdawnryj.jpg

http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/...pszvul0dcy.jpg


Hatchling #5 - Spider / maybe Bumble Bee

http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/...psoa62xqrl.jpg

http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/...psx77ufug7.jpg


Hatchling # 6 - Normal

http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6lyttkze.jpg

http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/...pswuzcp22k.jpg

Now that they are all out I will get a picture of the whole clutch up together in a few minutes

Congrats, love that little bee, really pretty.

Here they are, they are numbered in this picture for discussion purposes, the numbers ARE NOT the same in this picture as they are in the above posts. Requesting input from others please. #1 killer or bumble? ... #'s 2,3,5 I know are at least pastel but not sure if any are super? #6 Does it fit the bill for a low quality bumble or is it just spider? And #4 ofcourse is a normal. Should I wait for a shed or two before trying to make a determination on them?? Thanks for any help :gj:

http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/...psudz8drel.jpg

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Originally Posted by T_Sauer

Here they are, they are numbered in this picture for discussion purposes, the numbers ARE NOT the same in this picture as they are in the above posts. Requesting input from others please. #1 killer or bumble? ... #'s 2,3,5 I know are at least pastel but not sure if any are super? #6 Does it fit the bill for a low quality bumble or is it just spider? And #4 ofcourse is a normal. Should I wait for a shed or two before trying to make a determination on them?? Thanks for any help :gj:

http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/...psudz8drel.jpg

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I would say bumblebee. After it sheds it may be able to tell. Maybe its the lighting, but it doesn't look like a killer to me. I see no super pastels, and its a pretty spider. Congrats on the clutch!

Photo quality is better in this one .... The one I numbered I sent to my girlfriends phone because it has as stylus (easier to write the numbers) and then had her send it back to me so I could post it ... Well evidently the transfer back and forth between phones altered the quality of the photo somehow ..... (I'm not the most tech savvy person lol)

http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/...pspz8nfad6.jpg

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Originally Posted by T_Sauer

Photo quality is better in this one .... The one I numbered I sent to my girlfriends phone because it has as stylus (easier to write the numbers) and then had her send it back to me so I could post it ... Well evidently the transfer back and forth between phones altered the quality of the photo somehow ..... (I'm not the most tech savvy person lol)

http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/...pspz8nfad6.jpg

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I see a Bumblebee top left, a Spider bottom right, 3 pastels (2 of which are really nice) and a Normal. Nice clutch and nice to get 4 different morphs out of 6 eggs.

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Originally Posted by rlditmars

I see a Bumblebee top left, a Spider bottom right, 3 pastels (2 of which are really nice) and a Normal. Nice clutch and nice to get 4 different morphs out of 6 eggs.

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Thank you ..... Now I just need to get up the nerve to sex them .... They're so tiny I'm kinda nervous about it lol

I love number 3 congrats on your success. ...

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Congratulations on the little noodles! So cute!

Congrats T, they all look plump and healthy. Just remember , if you do decide to sex them you only need less than finger pressure. Keep us posted. Good job. :gj:

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Originally Posted by Albert Clark

Congrats T, they all look plump and healthy. Just remember , if you do decide to sex them you only need less than finger pressure. Keep us posted. Good job. :gj:

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Thanks Albert .... After watching multiple videos on popping (and I've seen it done several time in person) I decided to attempt it .... Nothing on any of them so they were all female .. right?? Yea I didn't think so either ... So then I attempted on several of my proven males and again ... Nothing. So I obviously am not doing something right. I have always probed my snakes to sex them, this is my first clutch and first time dealing with babies so I am also nervous about probing them being that the probe I will need to use is the size a 0.7mm mechanical pencil lead and they are so tiny and seem so fragile .... I'm probably just over stressing about it I know LOL :frustrate

It does take practice but don't stress it right now. To me, it's safer to pop hatchlings than probing and the reverse for adults. You have plenty of time to double check your results. Sometime as newly hatched babies your initial sexing results can be wrong. What you don't want to do is repeated checking without giving it a break for a couple of days. You'll be fine. Make sure your landmarks are correct when you are attempting the procedure that makes it very easy.

What a beautiful bunch of healthy little worms! Many congratulations! <3 I have a soft spot for Pastels (my first was a Super Pastel), I LOVE the crazy aliens on your first little one!