Blonde Pastel?

I just wanted to know what people's opinions were (or if they had heard of it) of the blonde pastel ball python.

I don't know of any pictures at the moment, and I'm at work, so I can't search for some. I know one person at the swap who has a pair for sale. They're beautiful, but I wanted to know what other people though, and if other people had acutally heard of them.

i've seen some pics of a few and they are brighter and lighter toned, but i don't know if the extra price is worth it. i have seen some nerd line lemons and they look nice. my pastel is my stepping stone to the super for me. i can't afford a super so i'll have to breed my own.


vaughn

My brother has a pair and they lose the blonde look and turn darker over time.

I've seen a bunch of blondes ... Actually, I remember when Matt Turner proved the original male out many years ago. The male that he imported from Africa was stunning as an adult, but no more so than the best looking NERD Lemons, Grazianis, or line whatever.

The thing you have to realize with pastels is that the "lines" are 50% truth and 50% marketing.

Every line (blonde, lemon, graziani, etc) is capable of throwing AMAZING looking pastels and every line also can throw clunkers. I always tell people that their best bet is to look at as many pictures of adult and babies of as many lines as they can and pick out what they think is best. From there, your best bet is to invest in the best looking pastel that you can afford from the line that you like.

All lines aside, there is one absolute truth .... beautiful pastels are more likely to produce beautiful babies than ugly pastels.

Look at lots of pictures ... shop around until you can't stand it anymore ... and buy the best looking pastel that you can find. You'll be all set!

Hope this helps.

-adam

there's alot of great advice above.
but, it still boils down to personal preference, availablity, and dead presidents.
blondes may have the color in thier youth, but, a nicely banded pastel will have character for a lifetime........

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Originally Posted by wendy

blondes may have the color in thier youth, but, a nicely banded pastel will have character for a lifetime........

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If you know what to look for, it's definitely possible to pick out a pastel with colors for a lifetime as well! ;)

http://www.8ballpythons.com/uploads/pastel-03310501.jpg

-adam

ZOIKS!

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

If you know what to look for, it's definitely possible to pick out a pastel with colors for a lifetime as well! ;)

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oh, most definetly! YOU sure picked a winner there! that snake is gorgous! and i am not saying that they are not out there, hey don't get me wrong....i'm just a lil' pee-on in this hobby....but here is my next pastel....now if i could only dig up the dead presidents...
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...ndedpastel.jpg

"pee-on" = peon, right?

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Originally Posted by Smulkin

"pee-on" = peon, right?

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alright, alright,....i was tired, & i couldn't find the spell checker button......lol

Just giving you a hard time and trying to avoid visiting urbandictionary.com any more this week hehe.

gee....Thankx...lol

[QUOTE=Schlyne]I just wanted to know what people's opinions were (or if they had heard of it) of the blonde pastel ball python.
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Like Adam said, the original blonde pastel sire was stunning.....different looking than many other pastels. Do all of his offspring look like him?? I don't know. I don't have blonde pastel stock so my experience with them is limited.

If you decide to purchase, buy the pastel because you like it.
Our knowledge of ball python mutations and morphs is in its infancy. The offspring of a snake tend to look like the parents but just because you have a high yellow pastel or one with nice blushing doesn't mean ALL the pastel offspring will look the same.


The following is a little rant. It is a pet peeve of mine.....I don't know if this will help you or not.

There are plenty of newbies out there that read up on every and ANY piece of information pertaining to ball pythons and the various morphs (this is a good thing):). However, some of these same newbies will spout what they know as if it is fact or as if they have personal experience with the situation (this is a bad thing):(.
For instance....I read or hear people (mostly newbies) saying that this line of pastel looks like_____ and throws babies that have the following characteristics:_____, _____, and_____. Lots of newbies get stuck on this. While there may be some truth to their statements, their info gets passed on as fact.
Any breeder that has experience and is up front with their customers will tell them that certain characteristics tend to be passed on to babies. However, "pretty" pastels can throw "ugly" pastels. Pastels with lots of blushing spots can be produced from a pastel parent that was lacking blushing spots. And don't forget about the genes that the normal female is throwing into the mix.

I think we are entering a new phase of ball python breeding.......many breeders are now working to refine established morphs. A few breeders have been working to refine morphs longer than others. Will we get to the point where pastels have different appearances that breed true with reliability?
I think so.....but we're not there yet.
If you are interested in refining a certain characteristic then purcahse an animal that displays that quality. Better yet, purchase from a breeder that has put time into a project that you are interested in. You'll gain knowledge of the project from the breeder and shave years off your projet through the efforts of the breeder.
So get busy. ;)

Excellent post Joe!

I heard that you're not going to make it to the big dance in August! We'll have to catch up somewhere else this year!

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

I heard that you're not going to make it to the big dance in August! We'll have to catch up somewhere else this year!

-adam

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Yeah.....I don't even want to think about all the fun I'll be missing. We'll definitely have to catch up sometime.