Need help figuring out morphs

Please help me figure out what these two snakes are

Snake one

http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...50_resized.jpg

http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...35_resized.jpg

http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...53_resized.jpg

Snake two

http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...30_resized.jpg

http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...39_resized.jpg


Any help would be greatly appreciated
Thank you

They look normal to me. What did you get them as?

Looks like a cinny and a normal.

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

Looks like a cinny and a normal.

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I agree. The first one look like a cinnamon. Second one is a normal.

I love the floating rosettes on those alien heads! The pattern is reminiscent of a cinnamon in places, but the color doesn't quite match up. At this point I'd say you have a interesting normal, but you could try to get a pic of the belly?

First picture is a normal, second, third, and fourth are a black pastel/cinnamon, and the last is a normal.

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Originally Posted by Kibbleswhites

First picture is a normal, second, third, and fourth are a black pastel/cinnamon, and the last is a normal.

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Only two snakes pic 1-3 are same snake and a cinny last 2 pics is a normal

Love this type of thread. :)

Pictures 1 and 2 aren't the same snake, unless the snake completely changed its pattern and markings.

Agreeing with cinnamon and normal.

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Originally Posted by Galaxygirl

Pictures 1 and 2 aren't the same snake, unless the snake completely changed its pattern and markings.

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Thanks for verifying, thought I was going crazy for a minute there

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Originally Posted by Galaxygirl

Pictures 1 and 2 aren't the same snake, unless the snake completely changed its pattern and markings.

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They are look at the eye on her back its the same one just one is a back shot and one a side

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Originally Posted by StillBP

They are look at the eye on her back its the same one just one is a back shot and one a side

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They both have big light patches right on their spine behind their head, but the spots look totally different to me and are spaced apart differently..

Those first two don't look like they're the same snake at all... the back markings are completely different.

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Originally Posted by StillBP

They are look at the eye on her back its the same one just one is a back shot and one a side

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Definitely not the same snake. Check out the back/neck striping on the snake in pic 2. Look at the section that would make up the middle of an 'S' curve going from left to right. The back striping is broken up there in three smaller spots. The snake in pic one doesn't have this at all.

Pic 1 - Normal
Pic 2, 3 - Cinnamon
Bottom 2 Pics - Normal