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  • 02-18-2016, 12:33 PM
    ItsAllNew2Me!
    Breeding Plans in the Making **Input Needed**
    Hi all. This is my current breeding plan. I am about a year and a half out right now but this is what I came up with so far let me know what you think. Hope I didn't make this too confusing.

    Males
    Albino 50% Het Pied (M1)
    Vpi Axanthic Lesser (M2)
    Fire YB (M3)
    Dbl.Het Albino Pied (M4)
    Russo Het Clown (M5)
    Special Het Pied (M6)




    Females
    Het Albino 50% Pied (F1)
    Pastel Het VPI (F2)
    Pinstripe Het Vpi (F3)
    Pinstripe Het Vpi (F4)
    Pastel YB (F5)
    Het pied 50% Albino (F6)
    Het albino 50% Pied (F7)
    Russo Het Clown (F8)
    Het Pied (F9)


    Breedings:


    M1 X F1 POSS ALBINO PIEDS AND ALBINOS (PROVING OUT)


    M2 x F2 Lesser PASTEL AXANTHICS
    x F3 AXANTHIC KINGPINS
    X F4 AXANTHIC KINGPINS


    M3 X F5 IVORIES


    M4 X F6 POSS ALBINO PIEDS AND ALBINOS (PROVING OUT)
    X F7 POSS ALBINO PIEDS AND ALBINOS (PROVING OUT)


    M5 X F8 BELS AND RUSSO CLOWNS


    M6 X F9 SPECIAL PIEDS

    I understand that these are not power house animals but they are way for me to jumpstart into Pieds, Clowns, and a couple of interesting snakes (and all of these cost me less than $1k combined :cool:). I am going to an expo next month and plan on getting visual pieds. I have $1k to spend so what kind of pied or pieds do you think would really enhance this group also male or female. Eventually I am going to get axanthic into my pied lines but that is far down the road :). Thanks for reading and any input would be great! :gj:

    **Sorry the formatting is not looking good and i cant seem to fix it**
  • 02-18-2016, 11:13 PM
    StillBP
    Re: Breeding Plans in the Making **Input Needed**
    breeding plan looks like a winner to me
    tho as for adding snakes you have 6 males and 9 females if you are adding a visual pied add a female remember one male can breed several females each season
    when I buy snakes I buy powerhouse males and 1-2 gene females (far cheaper that way) and hold back any multi gene females but that's just me
    with 6 males you could have 20 females with no breeding problems so any additions made I would add females
  • 02-19-2016, 12:23 AM
    ItsAllNew2Me!
    Re: Breeding Plans in the Making **Input Needed**
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by StillBP View Post
    breeding plan looks like a winner to me
    tho as for adding snakes you have 6 males and 9 females if you are adding a visual pied add a female remember one male can breed several females each season
    when I buy snakes I buy powerhouse males and 1-2 gene females (far cheaper that way) and hold back any multi gene females but that's just me
    with 6 males you could have 20 females with no breeding problems so any additions made I would add females

    Thx StillBP for the reply. I was figuring female pied but wanted to hear other opinions. Like I said also I have $1k to spend at the next expo. U think I should try and go for three normal pied females or should I get another gene in there? If so what do u suggest? I like your idea of powerhouse males that really makes sense. Thx again for the reply and glad my original post made sense to someone :gj:
  • 02-19-2016, 01:00 AM
    Caspian
    Personally? I think I'd go after Enchi or GHI Pied. Just because I can't find an Enchi Special Pied or GHI Special Pied anywhere to look at... so I have no idea what it would look like! I found Enchi Special without Pied - and those are pretty nice! But I couldn't find GHI Special.

    In the process of searching, however, I discovered that Super GHI is something I may need, someday. And then Super GHI Pied...
  • 02-19-2016, 10:28 AM
    CD CONSTRICTORS
  • 02-19-2016, 12:00 PM
    ItsAllNew2Me!
    Re: Breeding Plans in the Making **Input Needed**
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Caspian View Post
    Personally? I think I'd go after Enchi or GHI Pied. Just because I can't find an Enchi Special Pied or GHI Special Pied anywhere to look at... so I have no idea what it would look like! I found Enchi Special without Pied - and those are pretty nice! But I couldn't find GHI Special.

    In the process of searching, however, I discovered that Super GHI is something I may need, someday. And then Super GHI Pied...

    I was thinking about a GHI. I did see a male Super GHI a while back from https://www.facebook.com/ghireptiles/ . He was asking $6k for him. Couldn't convince the fiance though :(. Thanks for the tips I think the Enchi Pied is a good idea. Any idea on how much for the GHI Pied can't even find one on kingsnake lol. Thanks for the input!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CD CONSTRICTORS View Post


    Very nice!! I'm pretty sure they should have one of these at NARBC in Chicago :) I saw one on Kingsnake at $1200 which is doable (maybe a bit cheaper at the expo). Hopefully I can find a nice female. If i can't find a female any other ideas besides the Enchi? GHI Pied was mentioned but can't find one to price it out. Thanks for the input!
  • 02-19-2016, 12:16 PM
    ItsAllNew2Me!
    Re: Breeding Plans in the Making **Input Needed**
    Just found an Enchi het Pied female and a Mojave Enchi Het Pied male for $500 for both(hatchlings)! Also can get Female Pieds($300) and Pastel Pieds($400). What do you guys think? I can probably get a discount if I talk to the guy as i got most of my collection from him :D.
  • 02-19-2016, 04:59 PM
    Ax01
    Re: Breeding Plans in the Making **Input Needed**
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ItsAllNew2Me! View Post
    Just found an Enchi het Pied female and a Mojave Enchi Het Pied male for $500 for both(hatchlings)! Also can get Female Pieds($300) and Pastel Pieds($400). What do you guys think? I can probably get a discount if I talk to the guy as i got most of my collection from him :D.

    i would pickup the 0.1 Enchi he Pied and 1.0 Mochi her Pied for sure since it seems to be the direction u wanna go. i would skip the normal visual Pied and get the visual Pastel Pied if both are females. any leftover money should go towards a het Clown or het Albino.

    good plans and prospects. don't forget to post pix. :)
  • 02-19-2016, 05:30 PM
    ItsAllNew2Me!
    Re: Breeding Plans in the Making **Input Needed**
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ax01 View Post
    i would pickup the 0.1 Enchi he Pied and 1.0 Mochi her Pied for sure since it seems to be the direction u wanna go. i would skip the normal visual Pied and get the visual Pastel Pied if both are females. any leftover money should go towards a het Clown or het Albino.

    good plans and prospects. don't forget to post pix. :)

    Thanks Ax that is what I plan on grabbing as soon as he gets back to me along with a pastel pied. Yea i will have to start thinking about expanding the clown project for sure. The albino gene I want to keep to pieds (albino pieds) mostly but expanding that out could be something for the future. As soon as I get my good camera back (loaned to a friend who has had it too long :taz:) I plan on a photo shoot so the pics will flow!! :gj:
  • 02-22-2016, 11:21 AM
    ItsAllNew2Me!
    Re: Breeding Plans in the Making **Input Needed**
    OK so just confirmed. On Thursday for $1k I am picking up a 0.1 mid white Pastel Pied, 1.0 Mojave Enchi het Pied, and a 0.1 Enchi het Pied. The breeder I am working with is also throwing in a 0.1 db het Albino Pied and free local delivery as he is going to be in town this week!! I think I lucked out on this one! So my plan for these is:

    1.0 Mojave Enchi het Pied X 0.1 Enchi het Pied Mojave Enchi Pieds (obviously lol)

    1.0 Special het Pied (M6) X .01 Pastel Pied Special Pastel Pieds

    1.0 db het Albino Pied (M4) X .01 db het Albino Pied Albino Pieds

    Does this still look good to you guys along with my other plans earlier mentioned in this thread? Just want to get my breeding plans together as I like to plan everything well in advance :). Thanks for your time.
  • 02-22-2016, 03:16 PM
    ItsAllNew2Me!
    Re: Breeding Plans in the Making **Input Needed**
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ItsAllNew2Me! View Post
    OK so just confirmed. On Thursday for $1k I am picking up a 0.1 mid white Pastel Pied, 1.0 Mojave Enchi het Pied, and a 0.1 Enchi het Pied. The breeder I am working with is also throwing in a 0.1 db het Albino Pied and free local delivery as he is going to be in town this week!! I think I lucked out on this one! So my plan for these is:

    1.0 Mojave Enchi het Pied X 0.1 Enchi het Pied Mojave Enchi Pieds (obviously lol)

    1.0 Special het Pied (M6) X .01 Pastel Pied Special Pastel Pieds

    1.0 db het Albino Pied (M4) X .01 db het Albino Pied Albino Pieds

    Does this still look good to you guys along with my other plans earlier mentioned in this thread? Just want to get my breeding plans together as I like to plan everything well in advance :). Thanks for your time.


    ***Just wanted to clear up the formatting. Words in Green is what I am aiming for in the pairings.
  • 02-22-2016, 05:35 PM
    Ax01
    looks good.

    i like the Mochi het Pied x Enchi het Pied pairing. you're aiming for Mochi Pieds but getting White Gold Pieds and Enchi Pieds outta them would still amazing!
  • 02-22-2016, 06:56 PM
    ItsAllNew2Me!
    Re: Breeding Plans in the Making **Input Needed**
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ax01 View Post
    looks good.

    i like the Mochi het Pied x Enchi het Pied pairing. you're aiming for Mochi Pieds but getting White Gold Pieds and Enchi Pieds outta them would still amazing!

    You got that right!! I can't wait to see what varieties pop out of these pairings! I posted the top genes out of these pairings which would be the best odds but beautiful and healthy animals is what I really want to see :gj:
  • 02-22-2016, 08:41 PM
    StillBP
    Re: Breeding Plans in the Making **Input Needed**
    now you just need to get some size on your girls and go for the gold :)
  • 02-22-2016, 08:44 PM
    Ax01
    Re: Breeding Plans in the Making **Input Needed**
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by StillBP View Post
    now you just need to get some size on your girls and go for the gold :)

    and build another rack. ;)
  • 02-23-2016, 02:18 PM
    vividpythons
    very cool
    nice pairings.

    did you produce your special het pied? any others or can you tell me where you got it from? vividpythons@yahoo.com

    thanks
    vivid pythons
  • 02-23-2016, 04:49 PM
    ItsAllNew2Me!
    Re: very cool
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by StillBP View Post
    now you just need to get some size on your girls and go for the gold :)

    Yes the wait :tears:... Lol J/k I am content to let them all get up to size healthily.I am lucky to have no refusals from any of them yet so they are growing quick and i'm right on track for about a year and a half to have them all going :cool:

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ax01 View Post
    and build another rack. ;)

    Lol Ax you got that right!! I'm looking at PVC this time for some adult racks...I will be sure to post some pics as I go along with that. :gj:

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vividpythons View Post
    nice pairings.

    did you produce your special het pied? any others or can you tell me where you got it from? vividpythons@yahoo.com

    thanks
    vivid pythons

    Thanks Vivid. I did not produce the special het pied I got him from Jim at SW Reptile. It was the only one he had last year that I saw and I just saw his recent availability list for this year and there were none listed. Believe me I checked!! :cool:
  • 02-26-2016, 11:46 AM
    ItsAllNew2Me!
    Re: Breeding Plans in the Making **Input Needed**
  • 02-26-2016, 01:01 PM
    rafacacho
    Re: Breeding Plans in the Making **Input Needed**
    Nice pickup, bad pictures! Haha just kidding!

    You have a very special group to work with, full of big surprises and emotions!
    You can never loose with this guys!

    Enviado desde mi XT890 mediante Tapatalk
  • 02-26-2016, 01:27 PM
    Albert Clark
    Re: Breeding Plans in the Making **Input Needed**
    Great planning and amazing pickups. Hoping to see the odds gods rule in your favor. LOL. :gj:
  • 02-26-2016, 03:30 PM
    ItsAllNew2Me!
    Re: Breeding Plans in the Making **Input Needed**
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rafacacho View Post
    Nice pickup, bad pictures! Haha just kidding!

    You have a very special group to work with, full of big surprises and emotions!
    You can never loose with this guys!

    Enviado desde mi XT890 mediante Tapatalk

    Lol thanks and yes the pictures are HORRIBLE!! This is done with my phone because borrowed out my DSLR. I will be getting it back soon and will make sure to post pics of everyone on the photo thread. Thanks, I think this is a great group too!!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Albert Clark View Post
    Great planning and amazing pickups. Hoping to see the odds gods rule in your favor. LOL. :gj:

    Thanks Albert for the feedback. I agree with the saying of "Planning is half the battle" and I wanna win lol. This new set of babies has quite a bit of growing to do so they are a bit later in my plans but i'm on track with my others for a year and a half. I hope the odds gods are with me too but I will be happy with whatever I get. These are amazing animals and great to work with. :)
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