Does this exist?

I can't find one even on WoBP, but I might not be looking in the right places. Does anyone know if a cinnamon enchi pied has been produced? And if so, does it tend toward high white, low white or somewhere in the middle?

hmmm not sure if that specific morph exists but I have seen Enchi Pieds and Cinnamon Pieds. as far as how much white is in them, i've learned that it's random in most Pied morphs. i think only Spieds and Lesser Pieds are predictable being super high white pieds from to what I've seen.

Enchis tend to be low white where as cinnamons tend to be high white, which is why I was wondering! Seems like enchi brings out a lot of red in cinnamon morphs and I wanted to see if the morph combo existed.

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hmmm not sure if that specific morph exists but I have seen Enchi Pieds and Cinnamon Pieds. as far as how much white is in them, i've learned that it's random in most Pied morphs. i think only Spieds and Lesser Pieds are predictable being super high white pieds from to what I've seen.

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Nope. Cinnamon and black pastel consistently throw high white pieds too. Probably why the panda pied is so rare even though folks have been working towards them a good while now. You get past the duckbill/kink barrier only to be hit an extremely high white animal that looks barely different than many single gene black pastel pieds. The odds are truly stacked against you producing a nice, medium white, panda pied. Enchi pieds consistently low white animals. It would make an interesting project to see which one wins out overall - low vs high white - when combining enchi and black pastel/cinnamon with pied.

My end goal is cinnamon banana enchi pied, but it occurred to me that getting anything else in that combo is possible too. This project is going to be so fun and crazy!

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My end goal is cinnamon banana enchi pied, but it occurred to me that getting anything else in that combo is possible too. This project is going to be so fun and crazy!

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yep, any of those combos are winners. :gj:

I had hoped that adding pinstripe to black pastel pied would increase the amount of color since pinstripes tend to be very low white. Someone produced some last year that were pinstripe black pastel pied and one was all white, the other one had a spot of yellow across part of the head.

It's been quite a while since I've been on here. I do mostly pied combos and I'm hoping to hit on the enchi pied combos this season. I'm only pairing my enchi pewter het pied to one female pied as a trial. Things are looking good so far. Lots of action happening in the pied area here.

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It's been quite a while since I've been on here. I do mostly pied combos and I'm hoping to hit on the enchi pied combos this season. I'm only pairing my enchi pewter het pied to one female pied as a trial. Things are looking good so far. Lots of action happening in the pied area here.

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good luck. remember to come back here and post pics when you hit it.

Well I'm glad you did stop by because now I can gush at you about your urban camos lol. Definitely a combo that's very high up on my gotta have it list.

These? I'm working on some things here. I need to check back here often. It's been too long.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...psft0e3pyd.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...psgshkxvpd.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ps2bbb8f6d.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...pshvbginqc.jpg

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These? I'm working on some things here. I need to check back here often. It's been too long.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...psft0e3pyd.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...psgshkxvpd.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ps2bbb8f6d.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...pshvbginqc.jpg

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:O:O:O What are those?

Those look like Grey Matters. Or at least various forms of grey matters.

Champagne Super Cinnamons.

They're urban camos! iirc It's a super pewter het pied but with visual expression, yes?

Oooo i want one!!

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Those look like Grey Matters. Or at least various forms of grey matters.

Champagne Super Cinnamons.

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No Champagne in these. Grey Matters are solid grey and white. These are different shades of black, greyS and white. They can be in the form of Silver Bullet or Super Pewter but we believe also express the Sandblast gene that popped up on us in 2010.

Here are some Sandblast expression animals to compare.
Sandblast Pewter
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...psgnvlgowg.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...psd247131f.jpg
adult
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...psf4449b38.jpg

Adult Sandblast Savannah Pewter
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ps8aacfffa.jpg

Sandblast Sterling
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...psfms06et0.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...psu9jg3but.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ps62010365.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ps13653a16.jpg

Thought this gene was a fluke the first couple we hatched. This season we hatched quite a few of them from several different clutches.

Sandblast Killer Pied
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...psi6taw0n0.jpg

Sandblast Pastel
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...psrhxegiap.jpg

You ever produce a firefly sandblast pied male I'm not going to be able to resist dropping most of my savings on it lmao.

OMG Urban Camo's! BP's never cease to surprise and amaze me. :D

I LOVE that sandblast sterling! And those urban camos! [emoji7]

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My end goal is cinnamon banana enchi pied, but it occurred to me that getting anything else in that combo is possible too. This project is going to be so fun and crazy!

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uh oh. Chun over at Dynasty Reptiles is a step closer. he posted this over the weekend:

https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...5f&oe=575C8317

just need to add Cinny.

hurry up LL! i want u to win this race. :)

lol Well, I can only go as fast as the snakes!

I should be producing similar next season.....and then some. ;)

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I should be producing similar next season.....and then some. ;)

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wow more multigene Banana Pieds! keep them coming! :gj: