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Which stage of the shed cycle is humidity most important?
Just curious, if you could only have high humidity for one stage of the shed cycle which would be most important in contributing to a clean shed -- pink belly, in the blue, clearing up?
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With proper husbandry is doesn't matter.
Good humidity all the time is important.
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This is such a dumb question. The shed cycle is only about a week long, humidity should be high during the whole thing.
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Re: Which stage of the shed cycle is humidity most important?
I understand the importance of good husbandry. I'm simply asking out of curiosity.
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Re: Which stage of the shed cycle is humidity most important?
The moment I notice the change in the belly color, I will spray/mist my snakes at least twice a day, if not more, until shed is completed. I use paper for substrate so it doesn't hold high humidity without misting.
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Re: Which stage of the shed cycle is humidity most important?
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Originally Posted by Rickys_Reptiles
This is such a dumb question. The shed cycle is only about a week long, humidity should be high during the whole thing.
Good lord, can no one read? I'm wondering when a snake's anatomy takes the most advantage of the moisture in the air. I'm not asking which two day period I should provide humidity, I'm not a moron.
I'm simply curious how a snake processes humidity. But you're right, I'm such a dumbass for asking a question on a snake forum.
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Re: Which stage of the shed cycle is humidity most important?
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Originally Posted by reknirt
Good lord, can no one read? I'm wondering when a snake's anatomy takes the most advantage of the moisture in the air. I'm not asking which two day period I should provide humidity, I'm not a moron.
I'm simply curious how a snake processes humidity. But you're right, I'm such a dumbass for asking a question on a snake forum.
We can read but that is like asking which is more important if you can only eat one day a week? Monday, Wednesday, or Sunday? Whichever you choose your body will still not have sufficient nutrition for sustaining life long term.
There isn't a two day window that is more advantageous as the entire cycle requires proper humidity for proper shedding. You can feel free to experiment with your own animals and report your findings to the forum. However, I imagine regardless of which two day window you choose, you will end up with a snake that has difficulty shedding properly and in a single piece. Does that answer your question sufficiently?
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Re: Which stage of the shed cycle is humidity most important?
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Originally Posted by rlditmars
We can read but that is like asking which is more important if you can only eat one day a week? Monday, Wednesday, or Sunday? Whichever you choose your body will still not have sufficient nutrition for sustaining life long term.
There isn't a two day window that is more advantageous as the entire cycle requires proper humidity for proper shedding. You can feel free to experiment with your own animals and report your findings to the forum. However, I imagine regardless of which two day window you choose, you will end up with a snake that has difficulty shedding properly and in a single piece. Does that answer your question sufficiently?
I agree that not providing proper humidity all the time will probably result in a poor shed. But I don't think you know for a fact that there isn't a window that is more advantageous to the shed cycle to provide humidity. And that's all I was trying to do here -- start a discussion.
I would argue, based off nothing but ignorant reasoning, that the animal would utilize humidity more so during the period the snake goes blue. My only reasoning for this is that they go blue because of a fluid build up under their old skin, which would make me think that this fluid build up would better separate the old skin from the new with more humidity. More moisture, I imagine, would aid the role of the fluid.
But that's my very uneducated guess.
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I keep my bp's in the 60% range most of the time. When I see them blue I mist a couple times a day (bumps them up to 70%) until they shed. So far we have had complete healthy sheds this way.
I don't keep them at 70% all the time because the amount of misting necessary keeps the substrate (aspen bedding) too moist for my liking.
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Re: Which stage of the shed cycle is humidity most important?
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Originally Posted by Rickys_Reptiles
This is such a dumb question. The shed cycle is only about a week long, humidity should be high during the whole thing.
This is unnecessary, if you don't have anything helpful or nice to say. Just move on.
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Re: Which stage of the shed cycle is humidity most important?
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Originally Posted by enginee837
This is unnecessary, if you don't have anything helpful or nice to say. Just move on.
This was helpful, wasn't it? "The shed cycle is only about a week long, humidity should be high during the whole thing"
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Re: Which stage of the shed cycle is humidity most important?
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Originally Posted by Rickys_Reptiles
This was helpful, wasn't it? "The shed cycle is only about a week long, humidity should be high during the whole thing"
You know what he meant. My question wasn't dumb you just didn't understand it. And you clearly still don't because I realize humidity should be high the whole time. That wasn't the question.
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IT is worth pointing out that shedding isn't the only reason reptiles need humidity, which is why people are probably pointing out that correct humidity 100% of the time is important, humidity keeps the respiratory tract healthy and well as keeping the animal properly hydrated. Different reptiles require different levels of humidity based on where the species is located. To the OP in all honesty you could have probably taken your time to state your question better.
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An unclear question still does not warrant anyone being a jerk about it. Everyone is new at some point and everyone makes mistakes once in a while. Have a little grace and help people out instead of showing the world what kind of an ass you are capable of being.
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Stop the bickering.
The question was asked and an answer was given.
This is a public forum and you may not like the answers some people give.
If you don't like them you have a couple options, not respond or report the post.
Enough said.
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Re: Which stage of the shed cycle is humidity most important?
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Originally Posted by enginee837
An unclear question still does not warrant anyone being a jerk about it. Everyone is new at some point and everyone makes mistakes once in a while. Have a little grace and help people out instead of showing the world what kind of an ass you are capable of being.
My response had no emotion in it one way or another, your responses are not helpful either, everyone needs to understand that this is a large forum, and there are a lot of repetitive questions on here from newer people that don't use the search function, asking questions like this. When I read a question posted in the manner the OP posted the first thing that comes to mind is, here is another person trying to skimp by on the care of an animal. If I take it that way odds are most members on here that have been around a while will too. Yes this is a place for learning and everyone is new at some point, however when it looks like someone is trying to provide substandard care for an animal people are going to jump on it because it is a living thing that everyone on here is passionate about. That being said, I restate my original comment that if the OP was asking a theoretical question it should have been stated better than a couple sentences.
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Re: Which stage of the shed cycle is humidity most important?
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Originally Posted by jclaiborne
IT is worth pointing out that shedding isn't the only reason reptiles need humidity, which is why people are probably pointing out that correct humidity 100% of the time is important, humidity keeps the respiratory tract healthy and well as keeping the animal properly hydrated. Different reptiles require different levels of humidity based on where the species is located. To the OP in all honesty you could have probably taken your time to state your question better.
I honestly don't know how to word it any better:
"Just curious, if you could only have high humidity for one stage of the shed cycle which would be most important in contributing to a clean shed?"
I was clear that I'm only referring to the shed cycle, not the importance of humidity to the respiratory tract. I also state that it's a zero sum ultimatum -- you can ONLY have high humidity for ONE stage. I could also ask, if you can only drink one cup of fluid a day would it be better to drink it in the morning or before bed? Obviously though I understand that the human body needs more than one cup of fluid a day to be healthy.
I'm sorry the thread is no longer about the topic at hand. I thought it was interesting to think about at least.
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Re: Which stage of the shed cycle is humidity most important?
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Originally Posted by jclaiborne
My response had no emotion in it one way or another, your responses are not helpful either, everyone needs to understand that this is a large forum, and there are a lot of repetitive questions on here from newer people that don't use the search function, asking questions like this. When I read a question posted in the manner the OP posted the first thing that comes to mind is, here is another person trying to skimp by on the care of an animal. If I take it that way odds are most members on here that have been around a while will too. Yes this is a place for learning and everyone is new at some point, however when it looks like someone is trying to provide substandard care for an animal people are going to jump on it because it is a living thing that everyone on here is passionate about. That being said, I restate my original comment that if the OP was asking a theoretical question it should have been stated better than a couple sentences.
Yes, my question is theoretical. My snake gets the best care imaginable, so in the future don't assume everyone is a bad owner. If someone is on this forum, chances are they're not actively trying to skimp on proper care.
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Re: Which stage of the shed cycle is humidity most important?
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Originally Posted by reknirt
Yes, my question is theoretical. My snake gets the best care imaginable, so in the future don't assume everyone is a bad owner. If someone is on this forum, chances are they're not actively trying to skimp on proper care.
Again, I am just stating how it comes across, I have no emotion tied to my post, and I am assuming nothing.
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Re: Which stage of the shed cycle is humidity most important?
If I could edit my original post I would. Maybe a mod should just delete.
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Re: Which stage of the shed cycle is humidity most important?
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Originally Posted by reknirt
If I could edit my original post I would. Maybe a mod should just delete.
Doesn't work that way AND I already gave a public warning.
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People need to stop being so sensetive already its absolutly ridiculious how easily people get all bent out of shape today simply because they dont like the way someone says something.
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Re: Which stage of the shed cycle is humidity most important?
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Originally Posted by reknirt
Just curious, if you could only have high humidity for one stage of the shed cycle which would be most important in contributing to a clean shed -- pink belly, in the blue, clearing up?
I get what your asking, but given tone is almost never perceived correctly online, you have to at least understand how it could've been taken? However here is my answer: the more moisture the skin absorbs the easier it comes off and the better it stays together. no one stage is important over the other, but the best shed would be the one with the most moisture when it actually sheds. I mean if you take a snake and give it high humidity during the beginning and it starts to dry out coming up to the pealing part, that's not as good as humidity being high during the end. However if you only gave humidity at the end, the skin may not absorb as much moisture as it would of if you introduced the humidity previously. Its not really so much biology as it is just physical science.
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Re: Which stage of the shed cycle is humidity most important?
That makes sense. I appreciate the response.
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It's not the "stage". Nothing about the stage. As stated a few times previously, it's just about maintaining a high amount of humidity to assist with the clean shedding. :)
1) Have a good humidity range all the time.
2) When you see shed signs, up the humidity.
3) Hurray! A good (hopefully) shed.
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Re: Which stage of the shed cycle is humidity most important?
I understood the question perfectly when I read it. Yes it is important to up the humidity during the entire shed. When my snake starts turning darker I up the humidity and keep it up during the shed. But I also use direct misting on my snake with Zilla Tropical Mist. But I do it during the blue stage or with my snake blue day and then I don't directly mist anymore after that till she has shed's. I found if I mist-ed after that the skin became too moist and broke apart. I had a snake where I had to remove the remainder of the skin. But by not misting after blue day the skin was moist enough to come off but dry enough it doesn't break apart. I haven't had a bad shed since I have done it this way. But I might add I hope your snake is as sweet nature d as mine. I personally think it was a very good question, especially if directed toward misting. Might help a few people who have bad sheds. I have used Zilla mist during non-sheds if the skin seems dry.
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Re: Which stage of the shed cycle is humidity most important?
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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser
I get what your asking, but given tone is almost never perceived correctly online, you have to at least understand how it could've been taken?
I find that most people read into text the way their behavior manifests itself. A sarcastic person by nature will likely read text and hear in their head a sarcastic undertone or inflection. Consequently a sweet person by nature probably doesn't take offense quite as easily, because they tend to see the good in people. I am probably as guilty of this as anybody. Also, many people don't have as good a grasp on grammar as others or are just kind of lazy when it comes to punctuation so again, things are misunderstood.
A perfect example is a T-shirt I once saw. It read;
Let's eat Grandma
Let's eat, Grandma
Using commas can save lives
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Re: Which stage of the shed cycle is humidity most important?
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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl
Doesn't work that way AND I already gave a public warning.
That's weird because something I posted a few days was pulled off the site quickly.
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Re: Which stage of the shed cycle is humidity most important?
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Originally Posted by Bcycling
That's weird because something I posted a few days was pulled off the site quickly.
Would you like to discuss YOUR warning in public?
Reread the TOS first.
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Re: Which stage of the shed cycle is humidity most important?
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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl
Would you like to discuss YOUR warning in public?
Reread the TOS first.
Personally it wouldn't matter to me if it was in public or not. The poster here said maybe a mod should take it down and now it seems that won't happen, why not if he asked for that?
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Re: Which stage of the shed cycle is humidity most important?
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Originally Posted by Bcycling
Personally it wouldn't matter to me if it was in public or not. The poster here said maybe a mod should take it down and now it seems that won't happen, why not if he asked for that?
Because you are responsible for what you say here. One thing I love about this forum.
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