Monty soaking again ?

So Monty is back in his water dish this morning. I am going to leave him be for today to see what he does. Now he DID have mites a few weeks back but I was pretty certain I got rid of them all. There have been no signs since. I checked him out with a flash light this morning and I can see no mites on home or any dead ones in the water dish.

I did feed him last night and he has not pooped for a couple of weeks. I am just wondering if he is soaking to help the pooping process ?

What at are your thoughts ? Is it worth treating him at this stage as a precaution or should I wait ?

i remember u treating Monty with Natural Chemistry Reptile Spray. that's good. i also remember u threw out his old substrate, put him on paper towel until he was treated and mite free. did you also spray and wipe down his whole enclosure?

i would wait to see if this is a daily thing or pattern. in the mean time, i would order Provent-A-Mite (PAM). if he is still behaving like he has mites and u don't see it, i would repeat the whole treatment process for extra measure and his comfort. this time treat his enclosure with PAM and repeat that once a week for a month.

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Originally Posted by Ax01

i remember u treating Monty with Natural Chemistry Reptile Spray. that's good. i also remember u threw out his old substrate, put him on paper towel until he was treated and mite free. did you also spray and wipe down his whole enclosure?

i would wait to see if this is a daily thing or pattern. in the mean time, i would order Provent-A-Mite (PAM). if he is still behaving like he has mites and u don't see it, i would repeat the whole treatment process for extra measure and his comfort. this time treat his enclosure with PAM and repeat that once a week for a month.

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I agree with this completely. Besides, treating the enclosure every once in a while with PAM will give you some peace of mind and help you remain mite free.

Thanks both. I will see what he is up to tonight. If he is still in then I will start treating him again. I do have PAM but I never used it. My only comment would be its been about a month since I he was Mite Free (or at least thought to be) would it take that long for a repeat occurrence assuming that I missed some?

i believe mites have a 30 day life cycle. u are still in that window or i would assume u missed a few mites or eggs.

They do have a 30 day cycle, so it can appear to be mite free, then BAM mites again because the eggs hatches. I'd use the PAM and treat again, then continue using the PAM once a week for a month the once a month for a while just to be sure.

Ok - Will treat tonight with the snake spray and get rid of substrate. Spray the cage with PAM. Put him back (after its safe to do so)and repeat once a week.

That sounds about right


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My son called and said he had burrowed under the water bowl, I noticed this behavior lately , so maybe he just needs another small hide.

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Originally Posted by ShaggyRS6

My son called and said he had burrowed under the water bowl, I noticed this behavior lately , so maybe he just needs another small hide.

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great observation! :gj:

yes, he sounds like he's feeling a little insecure. he needs to feel his body touching the walls of something, a tight spot. a smaller hide would help. :)

Ok so here is what I know. He was/is still under his water bowl when I got home, I am going to leave him there as he obviously feels safe. I have noticed he has been doing a lot of burrowing lately, especially under the larger hides at the cool end and hot end.

I checked the water. there was one brown "thing" in the bottom. I mange to hook it out, it was Mite sized but I could not e sure thats what it was. I squished it on some white paper and it was a brown kind of color. So I am going to leave him under his water. I will check tomorrow morning if he is back in the dish, if he is I am assuming mites and will start with the treatment tomorrow. If he is not I am going to assume no mites, I will still start the treatment but I will start the treatment on Saturday. I will also get a couple of smaller hides on Saturday too!

Thats the plan. Thoughts?

sounds like a plan.

just remember to use Reptile Spray on your lil buddy and PAM in the enclosure. fog it up, let it settle and air a little before reintroducing Monty.

It mites, he is back in the water this morning and I caught a mite running along the edge of the warter bowl . So plan of action then.

Treat Monty tonight, remove substrate, and furniture remove water bowls. Vacuum and clean cage. Replace furniture but not water bowls spray cage with Pam . How long should I leave Pam in cage before I air it out and how long until I let Monty and the water bowls go back inside.

I will go back to using paper towel for substrate.

i think you may have said this but remember to treat all the things that stay inside his cage. other than the evil mites how is he doing? I want to see pictures of this growing boy!

Last time he had mites did you follow up two weeks later with the PAM again?

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Last time he had mites did you follow up two weeks later with the PAM again?

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No I did not. I think that was my mistake :( I was loathed to use the PAM.

How long should I leave the PAM in the cage until I air it? And then how long until I put Monty back in?

i've never had to use PAM, but i do have a can on standby just in case. i've only used Reptile Spray on my Normal girl when i first got her. (and to wipe down each new snake i get.)

but i've seen Youtube videos of PAM use. let it settle, dry and air for 30-60 minutes it seems.