What species comes after ball pythons

I've hit my first yr of owning and working with Ball pythons, I have experience with many other species and maybe want to breed one day. Looking for a species that reaches somethin around 10 ft in length, something a bit more intelligent than a Ball python. Right now I'm leaning towards Red Tail boas. Just wondering if any species in particular come to mind when I mention these traits? The new rack just came in and it's fricken HUGE, so I guess I'm movin' on up :cool:

Coastal carpets might be up your alley.

I second the coastal carpets, very fun, active, inquisitive snakes, however due to their more arboreal tendencies I think they're really more of a cage snake then a rack snake. (animal plastics T5 or T10 or something of similar size would be my recommendation.)

BCI
Dumeril's boa (they don't get long but they are insanely strong snakes so they feel big)
Rainbow Boa
Blood Python
Olive or Papuan Python
Dwarf or SD Retic

If you're not set on getting a giant snake, have you looked into a woma, angolan, or bredli.

Others have made some great suggestions. I totally agree that a coastal carpet, diamond carpet, bredli, woma or BRB are all great options. I think the Eastern Indigo is the ultimate snake to keep.

White-Lipped Pythons! some localities reach 10ish feet.

i saw these at a reptile expo the other month.

http://i.imgur.com/lNgVohDl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/b7Bugw8l.jpg

there's only a few breeders of these species, so there's opportunity for growth. :gj:

Thank you all very much you've all been insanely helpful!!!!!

I was looking at Woma's, they get a bit big for my preference as my first snake though. But from my reading they are wonderful with great personalities.

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Originally Posted by Aqualoon

I was looking at Woma's, they get a bit big for my preference as my first snake though. But from my reading they are wonderful with great personalities.

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It is much easier to deal with a large snake with a great attitude than a small one that wants to rip your face off.

I have two common garters, one "WC" that we found injured in the garage, one from a pet store. Neither are good pets and they're actually harder to handle than the larger snakes. They are little coiled springs that will fly from your hand with no notice, they musk, they bite (ok they try to bite), and I don't want to grab and hold them because they're so small I'm scared of hurting them.

If you plan on using the rack to house the new snake, telling us the size of the tubs will get you better suggestions. Not a whole lot of larger stuff is suitable for this type of housing system though. The exception is the animal plastic VE175 unit which uses the large christmas tree storage bins - those things can house some pretty large serpents!

The tub size is 41 qt but I could always move up if needed. I want to put that rack to good use for AT LEAST a year before having to size up, so preferably a species that doesn't grow super fast. A SD retic might be a good choice for me, I think

I like the idea of a sd retic.

I have read nothing but good about womas as pets and breeders. Large but manageable, active and strong feeders but typically docile, exotic looking and fairly rare yet hardy and adaptable.

When we begin to expand our program we plan on adding them to the family.

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The tub size is 41 qt but I could always move up if needed. I want to put that rack to good use for AT LEAST a year before having to size up, so preferably a species that doesn't grow super fast. A SD retic might be a good choice for me, I think

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You'll probably have to move up sooner than you think. 41 qts aren't really that big and retics are active snakes. Even a pure SD male will eventually need something along the lines of a 4x2x2 or larger. A lot of your options for larger snakes really do best with a bit of vertical space and room to climb and move, even as juveniles, so a rack is pretty limiting.

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You'll probably have to move up sooner than you think. 41 qts aren't really that big and retics are active snakes. Even a pure SD male will eventually need something along the lines of a 4x2x2 or larger. A lot of your options for larger snakes really do best with a bit of vertical space and room to climb and move, even as juveniles, so a rack is pretty limiting.

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My SD male is in a 48"x30"x18" Boamaster and he uses all of the space. He is very active. If I absolutely had to put him in a tub long-term it would be either a 74-qt under-bed tub or a VE-175 Christmas tree storage tub.

A super Dwarf retic would be a really sweet snake.

I personally would get jag carpet python though if I were to do another species.