Frozen vs live

I use live mice, what do you use?

I prefer to feed frozen/thawed, warmed up. However, I now have a house full of mice, simply because my SP girl refuses to even look at the f/t mice, other than to fear-strike at them. She's great on live. It's a 2.5 hour drive to the nearest source of live, healthy mice... which makes it worthwhile to keep a supply on hand. I'm hoping to gradually win her over to the f/t idea, but in the meanwhile I'm starting my first colony just in case.

I breed my mice. If your ever in Southern Wisconsin, I could hook ya up.

South Wisconsin is a long, long way from me.

Oh? *checks calendar* Is it time already for the quarterly live vs frozen thawed flame war?

Frozen thawed are the best food source for snakes if they will take them. Live rodents can be quite dangerous if a few variables line themselves up right. When dealing with Ball Pythons this can be especially dangerous given their habits of being lackadaisical feeders.

If you have a wildcaught animal that only takes live, fine. But ball pythons and most other captive bred snakes are just short of being domesticated and should have no problems accepting FT.

In before someone throws out this arguement. No there is absolutely nothing morally worse or better with either type of feeding.

I feed live but only because i have a few snakes that will not touch f/t and it is too much of a pain to keep both
and all of my feedings are supervised so to reduce any risk of my snakes getting injured

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Oh? *checks calendar* Is it time already for the quarterly live vs frozen thawed flame war?

Frozen thawed are the best food source for snakes if they will take them. Live rodents can be quite dangerous if a few variables line themselves up right. When dealing with Ball Pythons this can be especially dangerous given their habits of being lackadaisical feeders.

If you have a wildcaught animal that only takes live, fine. But ball pythons and most other captive bred snakes are just short of being domesticated and should have no problems accepting FT.

In before someone throws out this arguement. No there is absolutely nothing morally worse or better with either type of feeding.

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I only feed live because it's easier for me to get.

Frozen is just far more convenient for me. At some point I'll probably have to start a live colony when I start breeding (though maybe not, I found a local guy that breeds feeders and have been buying my frozen from him. Might be able to let him know my future plans when babies come up and pick up some live meals to start the kids off).

I feed live because my adult male decided to go off f/t and now has decided to only eat live. Then when I bought the baby she was already on live, so not a big for me to just pick up another when I get Jynx's meal.


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3 out of 14 refuse f/t so they get live, the rest get f/t.


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I use what works and is convinient whether it's live or f/t, rat or mice.

I prefer f/t but my BP only takes live, so live for her and f/t for everyone else.

LIVE all day, gives the snake a hunting for dinner feeling not just "spoon fed" thawed meals...;)

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LIVE all day, gives the snake a hunting for dinner feeling not just "spoon fed" thawed meals...;)

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Thats a really silly answer in my opinion.

They honestly don't care either way, if you've ever tried frozen you'd realize they can be quite agressive when it comes to them taking it off the tongs.

Food is food, and if the snake will take frozen, that's what I would go for.

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LIVE all day, gives the snake a hunting for dinner feeling not just "spoon fed" thawed meals...;)

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Do you call this spoon fed?


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Though I prefer frozen, I have no problem with live feeding, if done responsibly since that is what I did a while back.

I feed F/T rats, I don't think you're allowed to feed live in the United Kingdom.

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I feed F/T rats, I don't think you're allowed to feed live in the United Kingdom.

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Someone from the UK stated on a previous thread that is against the law there.

Just got my 2 month old BP... she was fed live from the start, but I just got her about a week ago and have only given her f/t. Since I only have one BP, it's easier for me to do F/T, and she didn't seem to mind the change.

oh, is it that time of the month again for the frozen/thawed vs. live prey debate?

anyway i prefer to feed f/t, but have a few BP's that currently only take live. there's merits for using one or the other, it just depends on your preference and what is effect or convenient for u.

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I use what works and is convinient whether it's live or f/t, rat or mice.

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X2. There's not one certain right way. Each has their consequences if not done correctly.

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I feed F/T rats, I don't think you're allowed to feed live in the United Kingdom.

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Someone from the UK stated on a previous thread that is against the law there.

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It is not illegal just frowned upon and highly discourage by animal activist groups.

A lot of people are confused about the law the bottom line this practice is currently legal so long it is not practiced in a public place, of course animal activist strongly disagree on the way the law should be interpreted.

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Currently under the 1911 Act it is not illegal to feed a live vertebrate to another unless you cause it unnecessary suffering, so that would have to be the result of a court case and the judge would have to make a decision.

Those of us who have been involved with reptiles will argue that a mouse that is being produced for food really has no cognizance of what is going on and exhibits no fear.

Whilst we absolutely do not want to encourage live feeding, we think we need some clarity as to whether that is going to be made illegal under this clause of fighting. Our concerns are, because of Clause 3(iv)(c), the need to be able to exhibit normal behavior patterns, that snakes in the wild feed on life prey, there are no carrion feeding snakes, so that would mean we are not going to be able to feed them frozen food; we are going to have to feed them live mice, and equally we would be opposed to having to introduce that.

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Hope this helps

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/image...quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Streller http://ball-pythons.net/forums/image...post-right.png
I feed F/T rats, I don't think you're allowed to feed live in the United Kingdom.




http://ball-pythons.net/forums/image...quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Reinz http://ball-pythons.net/forums/image...post-right.png
Someone from the UK stated on a previous thread that is against the law there.



It is not illegal just frowned upon and highly discourage by animal activist groups.

A lot of people are confused about the law the bottom line this practice is currently legal so long it is not practiced in a public place, of course animal activist strongly disagree on the way the law should be interpreted.

Quoted from the welfare act


Currently under the 1911 Act it is not illegal to feed a live vertebrate to another unless you cause it unnecessary suffering, so that would have to be the result of a court case and the judge would have to make a decision.

Those of us who have been involved with reptiles will argue that a mouse that is being produced for food really has no cognizance of what is going on and exhibits no fear.

Whilst we absolutely do not want to encourage live feeding, we think we need some clarity as to whether that is going to be made illegal under this clause of fighting. Our concerns are, because of Clause 3(iv)(c), the need to be able to exhibit normal behavior patterns, that snakes in the wild feed on life prey, there are no carrion feeding snakes, so that would mean we are not going to be able to feed them frozen food; we are going to have to feed them live mice, and equally we would be opposed to having to introduce that.


Hope this helps..
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