What's your LEAST favorite morph?

My least favorite morph is Super Chocolate Butter. I just don't like anything with a Super Chocolate gene.

I might get slapped for this but for me it is the BEL. The blue eyes are really neat but I am not one for solid color snakes (of any species). This also includes the super cinnamon. Plus if you have a combo like Queenbee and Kingpin, come out with a pure white snake, you have NO clue what is in it and that is a bit of a bummer.

I think that a BLE and say, a lesser black pastel lock up, that It would be cool to have a blue eyed black pastel. But, yeah, BLE's are dull, I wouldn't spend 600 dollars on one.

Well, A BEL and lesser black pastel would not make a blue eyed black pastel... It would make a lesser black pastel which would be nice OR a BEL (all white snake) with the possibility of being black pastel but you would never know unless you bred it which would take too long to figure out... yeah, too much of a hassle.

I'm waiting for the day BEL have pattern.

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Originally Posted by JTA

I'm waiting for the day BEL have pattern.

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http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/super-fire/ :gj:

Can't really say I have a least favorite. Guess I'm more of a "half full" kinda guy.

I wouldn't say that there's a morph that I specifically dislike. I dislike muddy looking snakes. That could be indistinct markings - or it could be too many markings. Honestly, even though both Balls that I have are marked, the fewer the markings and the cleaner the colors the more I like them, generally. I suppose one that I don't care for is Champagne. They just look too muddy and gritty to me.

I don't think they will ever have pattern. I've always been led to believe that If they were carrying other genes, you would have to breed them to prove them out. Although I talked to someone today who said there were methods to seeing the patterns on BELs, I think with black lights. I could have heard wrong though


Also, I don't think I have a least favorite. I like animals that hold their vibrancy and don't brown out with age. Clean patterns as well. I'm not a fan of champagnes myself either.

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Originally Posted by ChelseaV

I don't think they will ever have pattern. I've always been led to believe that If they were carrying other genes, you would have to breed them to prove them out. Although I talked to someone today who said there were methods to seeing the patterns on BELs, I think with black lights. I could have heard wrong though

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I'm going to a rep show that'll definitely have BELs, so I'll bring my black light and take some pictures.

Piebald oops

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Originally Posted by John1982

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/super-fire/ :gj:

Can't really say I have a least favorite. Guess I'm more of a "half full" kinda guy.

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We were talking about Blue Eyed Leucistics... should have specified. Black eyed leicistics are different and quite commonly have markings.

It would be pretty neat if a black light would show pattern but I kind of doubt it.

Axanthic -- wile i love the super bright silver babies most if not all(the black axanthic is exculded here) of them turn into muddy dull adults that are not as nice as a normal

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Originally Posted by caspian

.i dislike muddy looking snakes.

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welcome to the club

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Originally Posted by BCS

We were talking about Blue Eyed Leucistics... should have specified. Black eyed leicistics are different and quite commonly have markings.

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Blue eyed leucistics have markings too, even though more predictable. I tend to lump all "leucistic" complex animals together as they're really just different flavors with the same endgame when combining compatibles.

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Originally Posted by John1982

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/super-fire/ :gj:

Can't really say I have a least favorite. Guess I'm more of a "half full" kinda guy.

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i dont see blue eyes on that Super Fire

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Originally Posted by fLako0aGuiiLaR

i dont see blue eyes on that Super Fire

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Read my previous post.

I don't think anyone produced BEL for the white skin. They all did it for th blue eyes, which I get, but I wouldn't dedicate years to them.

I love the BEL, all white snake is just awesome. Blue eyes are the bonus.

I think sable ruins just about everything it touches. Enchi can't even save it.

I personally am not a fan of het red axanthics, kind of a boring mutation even the homozygous form does nothing for me, even in combos.

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Originally Posted by jmathis

I personally am not a fan of het red axanthics, kind of a boring mutation even the homozygous form does nothing for me, even in combos.

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I have two Het Red Axanthics and I agree with you. However, I do love gargoyles and albino Het Reds... really its not that bad but it is boring. Doesn't do anything extraordinary.

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Originally Posted by BCS

I have two Het Red Axanthics and I agree with you. However, I do love gargoyles and albino Het Reds... really its not that bad but it is boring. Doesn't do anything extraordinary.

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I will agree gargoyles are on the top of the het red list for sure.

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I used to not care overly much for BELs, I thought an all white snake was boring! But they've definitely grown on me. I don't think I'll purposely seek one out for cash money, but if my lesser bee throws one when I pair her off with a pastave, I may just keep it.

I bet if I had a BEL, I would think different, but I don't have one, and I don't want one, I don't have $600 to drop on a snake I might not like. I like my snakes to be pretty.



(I'm not a breeder)

Are super mojaves considered to be a BEL? They've got some pattern on their head. Also what about crystals? I've got a lesser/special which looks like a bell with a hint of a pattern and I've wondered if special is considered to be part of the BEL complex.

I'm not a huge fan of pieds.

I have a albino pied, very pretty girl! I don't like Normal Pieds though, all the ones I've seen are too dark and muddy.

I disagree. I think het red axanthic is pretty cool to look at. They just don't typically photo well but they're cool in person. I have a pastel het red axanthic and I love how she looks.

I'm not a fan of high pattern snakes. I'm kind of falling out of love with pieds as well.. I also do not like "cream" colored morphs like butter/lesser combos to be honest. I love solid black and solid white snakes like the supers though. I also like balls with very clean patterns that are not to busy like enchis, clowns, etc. But dark morphs have my heart.

Any snake with too many genes that they get washed out and faded. Don't like adult axanthic.

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Originally Posted by Yodawagon

Don't like adult axanthic.

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thank god its not just me

I agree with Yodawagon, any 6 or 7 gene snake I've seen just looked like mud or nothing at all which I just don't get.

Maybe I get some haters with that, but Sunset.. When the first time I saw a baby that was just fantastic and exciting. I just want to buy one at that moment.. But when I saw an adult, my heart was stopped. Disappointing and dirty as make me sad.

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

I love the BEL, all white snake is just awesome. Blue eyes are the bonus.

I think sable ruins just about everything it touches. Enchi can't even save it.

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I beg to differ!

Black pastel sable
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/black-sable/

Super Sable
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/super-sable/

Super Sable Pinstripe
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/sable-camo/

Super Sable Fire
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...e-super-sable/

Champagne Pastel Sable
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...-pastel-sable/

And the list goes on!!!!

I am well on my way to hatching a super sable hypo as well. Take a look at the super chocolate hypo. It should look pretty close.
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...ocolate-ghost/

Axanthic does nothing for me. Cute when their little, muddy as adults no matter what the combo.

i think i don t like morphs which aged badly. i don t like pastel, AX, albino and banana for that. I also don t really like champagne who destroy almost everythings ( except pied and enchi). i m also not a GHI fan as it s make everything noisy and dirty even the bel combos are quite cool.

I like Blue Eyed Lucies, but prefer the Black Eyed Lucies with color, lots of color. I have never been into Huffmans, never really saw much there, but admittedly, have not seen all the crosses.

Dave

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Least favorite for me is Banana. Just not an interesting color set for me.

Least favorite for looks or for other reasons? I hate spider, not for looks but the wobble just makes me feel uneasy. I'd hate to breed a non wobble spider and then get an awesome 3+ gene spider that has a really bad wobble. I love the way they look though.

For looks I mostly don't like certain gene because of their prices or difficulty. I'm not a fan of plain albinos and since they're a little more expensive and longer term projects I don't care for them. I don't like lessers/butters either, but that's only when it's a single gene. I'd love to breed a lesser and a mojave together with other genes between the two, I know I couldn't tell what else was with the BEL, but it seems like people are still willing to pay a little more for a hatchling like that than a simple BEL with no other possibilities. But even then I'd love to keep at least one male and breed him out, just to see what I get. Not really a genious idea if you're trying to make money or something, but it'd be really fun and interesting at least.