Killerbee completely grey and white?

This is Mike Brizzee's killerbee from a facebook group (not sure if he's also on this forum).
I'm wondering how frequently a killerbee can completely lose color like this. It's looks freaking amazing, grey and white!

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...4d&oe=56B4E9D7

Same killerbee.

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...bf&oe=56B4D736


And apparently, she used to look like this before laying eggs. Just like the usual killerbees I see.

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...5e&oe=56E86720

Does this happen often? Is the complete color-fading a thing with killerbees? If it is, there's a new morph on my wishlist now...

:O

Wow that is a nice looking animal! Almost look axanthic-ish.

There are a few threads around here, and a video of people snakes who have gone into shed, came out, shed, and are completely different colors than before.

I would say it's rare for sure. But it's a nice surprise when it does happen!

Super looking snake!

First thing I thought of too, axantic-ish.

Thanks for sharing. :)

There was some discussion on this phenomena with a orange belly gene animal recently. And the fact that the animal and a sibling who had undergone a similar sudden darkening. They were not sure if it was genetic or related to a suspected bacterial infection. Very interesting. The animal shown here is amazing and does look axanthic or anerythrystic at this stage. Congrats to the owner. :gj: Actually more anery than axanthic. The orangebellys became much darker than this though.

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Wow that is a nice looking animal! Almost look axanthic-ish.

There are a few threads around here, and a video of people snakes who have gone into shed, came out, shed, and are completely different colors than before.

I would say it's rare for sure. But it's a nice surprise when it does happen!

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Originally Posted by Reinz

Super looking snake!

First thing I thought of too, axantic-ish.

Thanks for sharing. :)

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I've seen those snakes too, changing colors after a couple shed- I haven't seen as significant as this killerbee before though. It makes me wonder what affected it! It does look axanthic, but even crazier.

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There was some discussion on this phenomena with a orange belly gene animal recently. And the fact that the animal and a sibling who had undergone a similar sudden darkening. They were not sure if it was genetic or related to a suspected bacterial infection. Very interesting. The animal shown here is amazing and does look axanthic or anerythrystic at this stage. Congrats to the owner. :gj: Actually more anery than axanthic. The orangebellys became much darker than this though.

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That's interesting! Do you remember where the discussions are or where I can find the pictures? (I'll search for them myself if I can) Did they ever try breeding/testing if it is genetic?

I find it crazy that it would undergo this kind of change as a sub-adult, if it's genetic. Weird! :O

I remember seeing this on Facebook too, we must be in one of the same groups :cool:.

Here's the thread on the orange bellies. They're trying to breed it out this season.

I don't think this is the same kind of change as the orange bellies. This change is I am to believe after one shed. Not as they grow like in the orange bellies. I could be wrong. But that's how I took the killer bee change. I remember seeing something like this happen to a ball python a few years ago and a lot of people said various reasons on why it changed its pigments to black and white. If my memory serves me right. The ball pythons changed back after a few more sheds.


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that's insane


one of my snakes got dramatically darker recently, but it wasn't as big of a change as this

Yeah, the killerbee's change was after one shed. But that shed happened apparently 6 years ago, so it doesn't seem like it's something that will go away again. :O

Hmm too bad the OP of that other thread didn't post pictures haha- I'm curious.

Can I buy it?

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Can I buy it?

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I'll bet you probably can, for a really big pile of money. But you would be disappointed because it's likely not reproducible in any consistent way. I've seen this happen with several other people. It's never happen for me though, but I really wish it would so I could document it. It's still a mystery.

That is a strange change. I would have thought genetic, but that's almost impossible just from a breed and shed. Hormonal changes are all but guaranteed from a breed which can effect coloration, but this is a really extreme color loss, not just shift. Pigmentation changing density from hormones makes perfect sense, but loss of coloration to straight gray just doesn't quite click, but I'm no expert.

Mike is a member here though I don't recall his screen name.
I have seen this girl in person and she is beautiful. :gj::gj: