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  • 10-06-2015, 08:28 PM
    Artemisace
    California red sided garter snake
    Looking to get into garters and was wondering if anyone is breeding these beauties. I'd like to pick up a pair of anyone has them available or knows someone working with them. Pic attached for reference.
    http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10...2179d2d94c.jpg

    snake room
  • 01-04-2016, 04:36 AM
    scottman
    Re: California red sided garter snake
    Look up Scott felzer's garter snakes on google. Thats the only guy I've been able to find that produces more than just checkered or plains garter snakes online.
  • 01-04-2016, 10:33 AM
    John1982
    Check with Casey Lazik. I bought a gorgeous pair from him last year. He has several lines of infernalis so you can even pick up an unrelated pair. I know they generally sell fast so you might have to wait for 2016s to be born.
  • 01-04-2016, 10:48 AM
    distaff
    Good luck!
    I joined the Thamnopsis forum yesterday. Enchanted with these guys myself. Kept coming across garter info. while trying to get natural history information on kingsnakes. I assume the communal dens of northern garters makes them an easier subject for study. Would love to keep a trio in a four or five foot long planted viv with a water feature just to watch the antics. (expensive set-up - gonna be a year or two)

    Please post pics when you get one.
  • 01-04-2016, 12:07 PM
    Albert Clark
    Re: California red sided garter snake
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by scottman View Post
    Look up Scott felzer's garter snakes on google. Thats the only guy I've been able to find that produces more than just checkered or plains garter snakes online.

    Scott Felzer is no longer in the industry. He was one of the original large scale breeders of garter snakes. If it was not for Scott, some of our garter snake morphs would not even be in the hobby. He is still the greatest! However, Jeff Benfer aka "the garter snake morph" is the main large scale breeder of many special morphs at the present time. He does have projects inclusive of the t.s. Infernalis (California red sided garters). You can google " garter snake morph" to access his page. I think he may be sold out at the present time. I will have a t.s. Infernalis project that will have results for late 2016. Good luck and welcome to Thamnophis.
  • 01-04-2016, 02:41 PM
    scottman
    Re: California red sided garter snake
    Aw man, I was really looking forward to purchasing a Erythistic eastern garter from him.
  • 01-04-2016, 03:52 PM
    Albert Clark
    Re: California red sided garter snake
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by scottman View Post
    Aw man, I was really looking forward to purchasing a Erythistic eastern garter from him.

    So, all is not lost! Why don't you check with Jeff? He has them. As a matter of fact , he recently put up for sale a large erythrystic female proven breeder. I know she was on fauna classifieds very recently. Erythrystic eastern female! She is huge too.
  • 01-04-2016, 04:12 PM
    scottman
    Re: California red sided garter snake
    Sweet! I'll definitely look at his site. I been thinkin about getting into breeding garters and that's be an awesome one to breed, especially to get some extreme red babies.
  • 01-04-2016, 04:15 PM
    Artemisace
    Re: California red sided garter snake
    Thank you guys for the info, I'll definitely have to check that all out. They are gorgeous snakes and I would just like to own a female if nothing else.

    snake room
  • 01-06-2016, 07:47 PM
    Jhill001
    That particular picture looks altered though (not saying it is). I find similarly slightly altered (IE with filter) on pinterest when I got on there looking up reptile enclosures.
  • 01-06-2016, 10:53 PM
    Albert Clark
    Re: California red sided garter snake
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jhill001 View Post
    That particular picture looks altered though (not saying it is). I find similarly slightly altered (IE with filter) on pinterest when I got on there looking up reptile enclosures.

    Sorry, which picture are you claiming looks altered?
  • 01-07-2016, 12:07 AM
    scottman
    Re: California red sided garter snake
    If you get one you definitely gotta post some pics of it. Those are one of my favorite garters along with the coast garter found in Humboldt county California.
  • 01-07-2016, 12:09 AM
    Artemisace
    Re: California red sided garter snake
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jhill001 View Post
    That particular picture looks altered though (not saying it is). I find similarly slightly altered (IE with filter) on pinterest when I got on there looking up reptile enclosures.

    I'll admit it does look like it may have a filter on it, but I've seen several pics that bright so I don't know

    snake room
  • 01-07-2016, 12:09 AM
    Artemisace
    Re: California red sided garter snake
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by scottman View Post
    If you get one you definitely gotta post some pics of it. Those are one of my favorite garters along with the coast garter found in Humboldt county California.

    I definitely will [emoji4]

    snake room
  • 01-07-2016, 12:20 AM
    distaff
    Re: California red sided garter snake
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Artemisace View Post
    I'll admit it does look like it may have a filter on it, but I've seen several pics that bright so I don't know

    snake room

    I agree about the filter - the green sort of glows, but I don't think the colours are all that mis-represented. I've seen others that looked just like it.
    ...This pic of the garter is not like some of the snakes you can find on Pinterest - there is one of a BP in mint green. (I expect if that snake actually existed, I would have seen it here first!)
  • 01-07-2016, 12:33 AM
    Albert Clark
    Re: California red sided garter snake
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by scottman View Post
    If you get one you definitely gotta post some pics of it. Those are one of my favorite garters along with the coast garter found in Humboldt county California.

    I breed this garter, as do several other breeders including Jeff Benfer. I can tell you for sure that there are localities in California where the animal can look like this particular animal. They ( California red sideds) have cousins known as the San Francisco garter snake which appear to resemble this animal in coloration with a different patterning. The S.F. garter is endangered and federally protected. Actually the animal in the photo is more representative of the S.F. garter snake. I believe the photo is legit.
  • 01-07-2016, 12:52 AM
    scottman
    Re: California red sided garter snake
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Albert Clark View Post
    I breed this garter, as do several other breeders including Jeff Benfer. I can tell you for sure that there are localities in California where the animal can look like this particular animal. They ( California red sideds) have cousins known as the San Francisco garter snake which appear to resemble this animal in coloration with a different patterning. The S.F. garter is endangered and federally protected. Actually the animal in the photo is more representative of the S.F. garter snake. I believe the photo is legit.

    Do you sell them, and if so how much are they? For say a female?
  • 01-07-2016, 01:03 AM
    Albert Clark
    Re: California red sided garter snake
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by scottman View Post
    Do you sell them, and if so how much are they? For say a female?

    I will pm you about that.
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