Moving

I'm moving to Vancouver (Canada) from St. Joe, MO. Driving all the way, leaving in a couple hours. My critter is a 14 year old 5 ft female normal. Will hand warmers be okay for heat for the hot side of plastic tub or just use seat warmer for heat?

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I personally would not use hand warmers as they get way too hot. When moving snakes I bag them up and carry them in an insulated picnic cooler. Usually this is enough, but if it's particularly cold out I use heat packs designed for shipping animals or a hot water bottle (not too hot) wrapped in a towel.

I decided to tear apart old enclosure for uth and thermostat. Rigged up a power converter and using bigger plastic tub. Placed bedding, hide and water dish in it for the trip. Gotta go.


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Sounds like a plan. Just make certain the probe can't get jostled out of position during transit as that could cause major problems. Best of luck on your move and let us know how it goes.

Officers in Iowa freak out when you say you got a snake, giant dogs and guns when asked if any weapons in vehicle. Lol. But the tub and everything is duct taped, strapped down and seat belted in. Nothing moving for sure.

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I would not have told the cop about the snake unless he was looking at it. ;)

Cleo riding shotgun, can't help but see her.

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If you're moving from the US to Canada is there an export permit required for ball pythons?

They are cities appendix II animals and they should have cities paperwork. Why would you get questioned by cops in Iowa? Did you run into that pesky Minnesota/Iowa border patrol?

Never looked into permits. So I haven't a clue. Got stopped cause van sits too high.

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My mom works at CBSA, I'm asking her now to look into it.

I suspect that if you do not have cities paperwork, the Canadien customs will not allow you to take the snake into their country.

My last stop is Portland, visiting kinfolk along the way. I'll have my sister get that paperwork looked into and that. Thanks for heads up

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This is what she was able to tell me

Before leaving the U.S with your snake, you need to stop at U.S Customs
"Wildlife in any form, including pets, imported into or exported from the United States must be declared and cleared on a FWS form 3-177 (Declaration for Importation or Exportation of Fish or Wildlife) by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) prior to release by U.S. Customs and Border Protection."

You'll have to fill out and receive some forms, and once it's been cleared you should have no problem entering Canada.

"Amphibians and reptiles (excluding turtles and tortoises) are not regulated under the Health of Animals Regulations (other than Part XII that regulates the transport of all animals). As a result, there is no Canadian Food Inspection Agency requirement to obtain an import permit, nor a health certificate. Under normal circumstances, there are no border inspections. Imports are permitted from any country, for any use, to any destination in Canada."

If you skip the step of stopping at U.S customs to declare your BP, You could be refused entry with the animal until you do so... It really all depends on if the CBSA agent you get is familiar with the U.S law or not. You'd be taking a chance trying to go through without the proper papers. My mom said that sometimes if you explain that it's just a pet and that you will not be selling it for profit then they may be lenient, but again it's a chance you'd be taking if they decide not to be.

Thanks for the info friend

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Safe travels CWB.