honey bee vs ghost spider

I purchased what I was told by hobbyist that the BP I purchased is a honey bee. I believe him. But a friend told that it looks like a ghost spider. I checked WOB site and both look similar other than the orange. The BP in question is several weeks out of the egg. How can I identify what I have?

Honey Bee = Hypo Spider = Ghost Spider

It's all the same two gene animal. :gj:

If u post a pic i will b able to tell u!


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Trying to post one but don't know how.

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Originally Posted by Eric Alan

Honey Bee = Hypo Spider = Ghost Spider

It's all the same two gene animal. :gj:

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This right here.
Next time look at the "AKA"s on the morphs page. They are all one in the same.:gj::gj:

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Originally Posted by Jt balls

If u post a pic i will b able to tell u!

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Tell what??
Its a two gene animal. (Spider and Hypo/Ghost)

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Originally Posted by locolobito

Trying to post one but don't know how.

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And I did check aka. Honey bee says orange ghost n spider. Ghost spider says ghost n spider.

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Originally Posted by locolobito

And I did check aka. Honey bee says orange ghost n spider. Ghost spider says ghost n spider.

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http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...SpiderAKAs.jpg

Looks like a normal spider to me

Yeah that doesnt look like anything more than a Spider to me too.

World of balls, yes

Down its back is butterscotch and orange flecks up its sides. It's a normal spider.

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But regardless of it being a honey bee/ghost spider. I breed him to my pastel and my normal the clutches will all be het ghost, right? With chance of bumblebee? Breed het spider to het pastel, I get a humblebee?

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Originally Posted by locolobito

But regardless of it being a honey bee/ghost spider. I breed him to my pastel and my normal the clutches will all be het ghost, right? With chance of bumblebee? Breed het spider to het pastel, I get a humblebee?

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So I think you've been mislead. The snake I'm seeing appears to be a single gene spider. Is it possible that you misheard the breeder and that they may have called it a spider het ghost/hypo? That would explain the normal appearing spider animal shown in the pics. Also, I think someone posted some information on genetics. The spider gene is dominant and pastel is co-dominant. There aren't any animals the would be "het" for these genes. The "het" refers to an animal that carries a recessive gene that is not expressed. For example a "het albino" animal carries the albino gene but it doesn't look like an albino.

So even with the orange coming up its sides it's still a normal spider?

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And his 1st shed was clear also.

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I didn't mishear, I still have the emails

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Originally Posted by locolobito

So even with the orange coming up its sides it's still a normal spider?

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That does not make it a Hypo. It could be Het Hypo considering Ghost is a recessive gene. Still no seeing any in the body of the snake you posted.

If so, then I'm catching charges today

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Originally Posted by locolobito

So even with the orange coming up its sides it's still a normal spider?

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Yes, even with the orange. There can be a lot of variance with the different morphs. This doesn't always mean that there's other genes at work. The ghost/hypo gene tends to create a kind of satin type finish is the best way to describe it. The sharp black coloration is usually a more muted grey color when the ghost gene is expressed. I'm a very trusting person and would tend to trust what another person tells me. There is always the possibility that they made a mistake in the description as well.

It's all good, still know where the person lives. Going to get my money back and then some. All have a good day. Thank you

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Ask for pics of the parents and the clutch together..

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If so, then I'm catching charges today

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It's all good, still know where the person lives. Going to get my money back and then some. All have a good day. Thank you

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Wow, no need for all that now. If you aren't satisfied, just ask for your money back and return the snake. It's that simple.

I was satisfied cause it was a present for my brother when he gets back from Iraq. Now I'm beyond pissed

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Originally Posted by MidSouthMorphs

Wow, no need for all that now. If you aren't satisfied, just ask for your money back and return the snake. It's that simple.

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I'd agree. Unfortunately in this hobby mistakes are made. I've been burned as have many others. Sometimes its due to inexperience on both the seller and buyer side. Whether there is a intentional act to deceive remains to be seen. There is enough people out there that oppose the hobby we all love here. Don't go making what could be a simple mistake into something more than it should be. Ask for a refund and find something else.

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I was satisfied cause it was a present for my brother when he gets back from Iraq. Now I'm beyond pissed

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Iraq? I was unaware that troops are being deployed there anymore. You sure it isn't Kuwait? Anyways, if you're mad or not, just politely ask for a return. As Bigfish said, mistakes are made sometimes unintentionally. A good seller will always make things right.


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I sent you a PM.

He's working construction

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Originally Posted by locolobito

It's all good, still know where the person lives. Going to get my money back and then some. All have a good day. Thank you

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I was satisfied cause it was a present for my brother when he gets back from Iraq. Now I'm beyond pissedWo

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WoW................ This is one this that makes this hobby so hard. SMH
Do your research before you purchase next time.

Thank you though. I could have gotten a spinner yellowbelly for him, but he loves honey.

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Actually I did research on it. Thank you

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I'm done with this topic. Got my money back and kept the snake. Ordering from BHB

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Thank you all.

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