Not all of us are breeders. Some of us just really like snakes.

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Pretty soon I'm going to need a rack.


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Nothing wrong with that at all. :gj: Beautiful snakes you have!

I kept reptiles for some 20 years with absolutely no interest in breeding. It's a, relatively recent, developing interest of mine and definitely not for everyone. Great looking animals you have there!

Nothing wrong with that at all! Love the big one in the middle. Great colors.

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Breeding to sell for pets doesn't interest me. I trust no one.

I can envision an eventual interest in breeding animals that are at risk for loss the natural world. The Timber Rattlesnake has a terrible fungus problem in the wild. Others are loosing habitat. The Eastern Indigo Drymarchon couperi already has an organized captive breeding program for field release. The Hog Island boa is now mostly if not entirely captive kept.

HerpNation Radio had a good program with a guy who works with the very hard to breed Morelia boeleni (spell?) python. Again, conservation. An animal that beautiful is going to get over harvested out of the wild.

Another similar case is the Oenpelli python. Pretty snake in itself, but the purported assoc. with mystical creator "Rainbow python" of the Aborigines makes it culturally significant. A guy named Gavin Bedford is working with those. I became intrigued with his work when I saw a pic of one of the babies he bred. It looks a lot like the small adult Antaresias (spell?). Same proportions, shaped head, general coloring, and spotting...same buggy eyes. I have seen no rainbow on any pic of the Oenpelli like you can see on some locality boas, or the Rainbow boa, where the surface shimmer colors are intense and irridescent, but the Oenpelli is reported to have a distinct and remarkable silver "glow" at night. The ghost morph of the Children's pythons also does this at night (Snakebytes vid??, IIRC, this a snake at the Peter Birch facility in AU). Might make a good marketing angle - if you can't afford the mythic creator Oenpelli, you can get nearly the same in the little Childrenii morph.

...anyway long winded answer.
Happy breeding.

Nice snakes you have there!

I have no interest in taking on breeding these snakes either. But then interests evolve, and it wasn't that long ago really that I no interest in snakes at all!


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And most of us breeders really really love snakes as well. For me, seeing the babies come out of the egg is better than Unboxing one. But you do have some Beth pretty snakes, thanks for sharing.

Sorry everyone, wasn't trying to bash those of you who breed!


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No need to apologize! :) There was absolutely nothing offensive about the words or tone. Breeders, collectors, enthusiasts, and all - we're happy to have 'em all here!

You've got some handsome snakes there! Any plans to collect more in the future?

Aw c'mon, pippers are just CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTE!

But I'm also finding that as my reptile hobby "matures" I'm becoming less interested in breeding common species like ball pythons, and more interested in the snake species or locality boas whose wild populations are at risk.

I was also unaware of the program to release CB eastern indigoes to the wild, I will have to check in to that.

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Sorry everyone, wasn't trying to bash those of you who breed!


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No need to apologize, we are all here because of our love of these wonderful snakes, breeders and keepers alike. Keep us updated as your snakes grow, we love to see progression pictures!

The only reason I chose to breed is because I cannot afford one big payment of $1000 for a morph that I want. (Clown for example which is my favorite morph). I can afford $200 for a het pair but not $1000 for the real thing, so I breed to get the morphs I want. A puma is also a good example because I bought a cinnamon yellowbelly for $300 before I even knew of the puma. Instead of just going out to buy a puma at $800 (some even go for $1000)... I bought a spark for $225 instead. The only problem breeding for this reason is you end up with extras, so you have to sell them. I would like to call myself more of a collector then a breeder but I (will be) breeding so I can collect... if that makes any sense. My love for these snakes tops it of course.

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Aw c'mon, pippers are just CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTE!

But I'm also finding that as my reptile hobby "matures" I'm becoming less interested in breeding common species like ball pythons, and more interested in the snake species or locality boas whose wild populations are at risk.

I was also unaware of the program to release CB eastern indigoes to the wild, I will have to check in to that.

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http://www.oriannesociety.org/eastern-indigo-snake

They have changed their website. My previous understanding was that the EI's propagation, release and protection was their main goal, but they seem to have expanded their mission. (Currently looks pretty diluted and directionless, even though the site has beautiful photographs.)

Hope they are still getting that done.

I would love to get a girlfriend for my pinstripe and hatch a clutch of eggs one day, but only once I have the means to keep all the babies.


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No need to apologize! :) There was absolutely nothing offensive about the words or tone. Breeders, collectors, enthusiasts, and all - we're happy to have 'em all here!

You've got some handsome snakes there! Any plans to collect more in the future?

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Well I'll keep taking in normals that need homes as long as I have the space/money. Eventually I might want to get a 2 or 3 gene female to possibly pair up with my pinstripe but I'm still debating it.


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Hey KW, I just saw your avatar. If you are into mustaches you may want to consider a Boa!


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