What would you hold back?

Okay, so the pairing was a clown to a spider (not het clown). I got 7 good eggs due august 8th. What would you be looking for to hold back from this clutch and why? I'm trying to understand the whole "hold back" thing better. Thanks!

I would hold back a male spider and 2 female normals. You then breed the male to both females and increase your chances for spider clowns.
For my spider albino to pied pairing, I also got 7 eggs. I kept 1.1 normal and a 0.1 spider.
In your case, you'd keep a male spider to get more spider clowns, whereas I kept a female spider, as I'm not interested in a spider pied, though I would keep an albino spider pied.

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Originally Posted by Tzeentch

I would hold back a male spider and 2 female normals. You then breed the male to both females and increase your chances for spider clowns.
For my spider albino to pied pairing, I also got 7 eggs. I kept 1.1 normal and a 0.1 spider.
In your case, you'd keep a male spider to get more spider clowns, whereas I kept a female spider, as I'm not interested in a spider pied, though I would keep an albino spider pied.

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I see your reasoning...but wouldn't I want a female spider to breed to my male clown?

Without seeing the clutch.
I would hold back all females.
They take longer to grow out but you already have the male clown.

I would hold back any spider females but if yoy only get 1 spider female then hold vack at least 1 normal female. It akso depends on how much room you have to grow out female

That is that pairing but do you have any other animals with the clown genes (females, older ones) either hets or visuals?

If you do than hold back a male Spider Het Clown this will cut back down on time.


If you don't than hold back as many Spider Het Clowns you can hold back and sell the het clowns.

I'm going to be making the same exact pairing this fall and plan to hold back all of the female spider het clowns and sell everything else.

My reasoning is that hopefully I will also produce a male pastel clown from my clown to my pastel het clown female. When the male pastel clown and female spider hets are up to size I can then try for bumblebee clowns. Of course that's all assuming everything goes exactly as planned ;)

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Originally Posted by Deborah

That is that pairing but do you have any other animals with the clown genes (females, older ones) either hets or visuals?

If you do than hold back a male Spider Het Clown this will cut back down on time.


If you don't than hold back as many Spider Het Clowns you can hold back and sell the het clowns.

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My male breeder clown is the only clown I have, but I have a pastel het clown female around 800g

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Originally Posted by mwolf

I'm going to be making the same exact pairing this fall and plan to hold back all of the female spider het clowns and sell everything else.

My reasoning is that hopefully I will also produce a male pastel clown from my clown to my pastel het clown female. When the male pastel clown and female spider hets are up to size I can then try for bumblebee clowns. Of course that's all assuming everything goes exactly as planned ;)

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Wow we have the same plan!!!! I have a bumblebee breeder female that I plan to make some bumblebee het clowns with tho:)

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Originally Posted by f22raptor95

My male breeder clown is the only clown I have, but I have a pastel het clown female around 800g

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In that case I would hold back a Spider Het Clown Male, by the time she is ready so will he. This will allow you to shoot for Bumblebee Clown in no time. Even in that case holding back 1 or 2 females Spider Het Clown can't hurt if you have the room, you never have enough female Hets.

If you don't want to keep a male you can hold back some female Spider Het Clowns instead and pair the Clown to your Pastel Het Clown and hold a male later own from that clutch (if there is a male) it's the longer route but with better odds but if you don't produce male Pastel Clown it will be an even longer route.

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Originally Posted by f22raptor95

Okay, so the pairing was a clown to a spider (not het clown). I got 7 good eggs due august 8th. What would you be looking for to hold back from this clutch and why? I'm trying to understand the whole "hold back" thing better. Thanks!

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I can't tell you what to holdback because that is up to you. But I will help clarify the whole "hold back thing" cus it seems as if you are having a bit of confusion there. A hold back is just an animal or animals you want to keep back to expand your collection and go in a certain direction with. So for me, for example, I only plan to holdback a male or two this season (as long as they have more genes than my current males) and I plan to holdback just about every 2+ gene female I hatch. Why? So that I don't have to invest money buying females since I am raising them myself. This will allow me to triple my current collection in size and in a few years I will have that many more females to breed.

I would hold back all the females and a spider het clown male...

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Originally Posted by Deborah

In that case I would hold back a Spider Het Clown Male, by the time she is ready so will he. This will allow you to shoot for Bumblebee Clown in no time. Even in that case holding back 1 or 2 females Spider Het Clown can't hurt if you have the room, you never have enough female Hets.

If you don't want to keep a male you can hold back some female Spider Het Clowns instead and pair the Clown to your Pastel Het Clown and hold a male later own from that clutch (if there is a male) it's the longer route but with better odds but if you don't produce male Pastel Clown it will be an even longer route.

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If I bred a spider het to a pastel het my odds of hitting the bumblebee clown are 1/16:/ I may breed the pastel het to my visual...so you're second option...