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Help ID my red tail

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  • 07-14-2015, 10:20 PM
    Tsanford
    Help ID my red tail
    I was given this Red Tail today by a friend of mine from work. Is it possible to identify the type / place it comes from based on the markings?

    Do you probe them for sex the same way as a bp?

    Any tips? I'll be building a 2x2x4 enclosure this week to accommodate the size.

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  • 07-15-2015, 12:39 AM
    jmccauley51423
    Looks like a beautiful one!!!
  • 07-15-2015, 02:49 AM
    Mustang5
    Re: Help ID my red tail
    On a snake bytes vid Brian said that males more often then not will have bigger spurs then females. But if you want to be 100% sure you can try to sex them like bps. I'm not sure on the markings and where it came from you will have to get someone more experienced with boas to answer that question/
  • 07-15-2015, 02:54 AM
    Tsanford
    Re: Help ID my red tail
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mustang5 View Post
    On a snake bytes vid Brian said that males more often then not will have bigger spurs then females. But if you want to be 100% sure you can try to sex them like bps. I'm not sure on the markings and where it came from you will have to get someone more experienced with boas to answer that question/

    I don't pop, I probe. So would it be the same; females are shallow [emoji14]

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  • 07-15-2015, 10:55 AM
    GoingPostal
    Impossible to tell locality without some lineage info but looks like a common boa, not a red tail. Looks like it's in good condition, I wish my friends would give me that kind of gift!
  • 07-15-2015, 11:43 AM
    JoshSloane
    It is a common Colombian red tail boa. What GoingPostal is saying is that it isn't a true red tail, as in BCC (Boa constrictor constrictor) which are locality boas from suriname, Guyana etc. Good looking snake. For adults definitely probe, babies are easier to pop. Find someone who has experience doing this. How old is it? Im going to guess female...

    For enclosure 4x2x2 is fine, but you don't really need that much height, unless you are into them climbing and having a ton of arboreal space. 4x2x1.5 is plenty to have some branches. Save some materials and money.

    There are a ton of boa cage build threads. I would go with 1/2 or 3/4 inch quality plywood, seal to make water resistant. You then get to decide on door type, how you are going to heat etc. Lots of variables.

    I am in the process of a cage build now, if you want to discuss further let me know.
  • 07-15-2015, 03:09 PM
    Tsanford
    Re: Help ID my red tail
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JoshSloane View Post
    It is a common Colombian red tail boa. What GoingPostal is saying is that it isn't a true red tail, as in BCC (Boa constrictor constrictor) which are locality boas from suriname, Guyana etc. Good looking snake. For adults definitely probe, babies are easier to pop. Find someone who has experience doing this. How old is it? Im going to guess female...

    For enclosure 4x2x2 is fine, but you don't really need that much height, unless you are into them climbing and having a ton of arboreal space. 4x2x1.5 is plenty to have some branches. Save some materials and money.

    There are a ton of boa cage build threads. I would go with 1/2 or 3/4 inch quality plywood, seal to make water resistant. You then get to decide on door type, how you are going to heat etc. Lots of variables.

    I am in the process of a cage build now, if you want to discuss further let me know.

    Thanks for the responses!

    I figured it was a Columbian that is sold at every pet store.

    As for probing. I have experience on my balls. I've probed at least 100 times. So I would need to verify if the depth / scale counting is generally the same. I can look that up though ;)

    I planned on making the display cage out of oak plywood, and I haven't decided if I'll do sliding doors or a fold down glass framed door. But I'll probably find a nice piece of drift wood and drill it permanently in. As for heat, it will be in my Snake room that's at 88, so I'm thinking I may only need some heat tape for basking. Also I'll wire in some leds for the display effect.

    I'll send you a pm in a little Josh so that maybe we can brainstorm some.

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  • 07-15-2015, 03:16 PM
    JoshSloane
    Yeah, the big question is whether you want hinged or sliding glass. Even though it seems like a hinged door is easier, I have come to find that it is much more difficult to frame glass, and get a correctly articulating door, rather than just install runners for glass.
  • 07-15-2015, 03:26 PM
    Tsanford
    Re: Help ID my red tail
    I was thinking of mitered 45 cuts, run the router down center to make a groove, them use the craig jig to secure it all.

    I also don't have experience with the sliding stuff. Id have to research about the tracks and such. Also would I have to have the glass cutting place cut the two circles for locks ?

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  • 07-15-2015, 03:54 PM
    JoshSloane
    You can definitely do that. The issue is getting the hinges to sit flush with the plywood. I found that you need to router out the width of the hinge to prevent a gap.

    I have found some really easy ways to install sliding glass on youtube. Basically all you need is some C-channels from home depot, glass, diy glass cutting kit and liquid nails. Channels can be cut to the appropriate length to fit your enclosure, cut glass and slide into place. Can even pick up some cheap rollers to put in the channels to make sliding the glass easier.

    You don't need to drill holes in the glass for locks. There are ratchet locks that work well.
  • 07-15-2015, 04:25 PM
    Reinz
    Hey TS, welcome to Boaville! Boas are the bomb!

    Enjoy :)
  • 07-15-2015, 10:36 PM
    Tsanford
    Re: Help ID my red tail
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Reinz View Post
    Hey TS, welcome to Boaville! Boas are the bomb!

    Enjoy :)

    Hey bud I was waiting for you to chime in after your latest addition!

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  • 07-30-2015, 03:48 AM
    Cold Djinn
    Re: Help ID my red tail
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JoshSloane View Post
    Yeah, the big question is whether you want hinged or sliding glass. Even though it seems like a hinged door is easier, I have come to find that it is much more difficult to frame glass, and get a correctly articulating door, rather than just install runners for glass.


    We've built houses with sliding doors and hinged doors and have found that simply screwing the Plexiglas onto the back of a solid board with a cut out "window" affixed to a ful length piano hinge to be simplest.
    It also provides no edges or corners for 'nose rubbing' habits.

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  • 07-30-2015, 09:09 AM
    CloudtheBoa
    You may want to keep in mind that heat tape will not heat through wood, and having it in the enclosure is a burn, fire, and electric shock hazard even when enclosed. You can risk it if you want, but the risk is real, as even the littlest imperfection could mean water or urine leaking onto the tape, and having it enclosed can run the risk of it burning too hot due to lack of air flow if not enclosed correctly.

    Personally, I prefer overhead head as the main source of heat for my big boas. That would also be simplest way to provide heat for your boa with the set up you have in mind. All you'd need to do is make a heat guard and drill a hole for the wire if you chose a CHE, and screw an RHP in place with a hole for the wire for an RHP.
  • 07-30-2015, 09:10 AM
    frostysBP
    Re: Help ID my red tail
    I use to build with hinged but now everything is sliding doors with the aluminium c channel glass and a jewelers lock. A 4 footer made from HDPE cost exactly 105.48 for all materials from manards 100% water prof and no cure time on sealerhttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07...6c5f8f3199.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07...d8c6fe9ae3.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07...cd6b4cc113.jpg

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  • 07-30-2015, 09:12 AM
    frostysBP
    Re: Help ID my red tail
    Oops double pic posthttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07...b35706d40e.jpg with the side panel off to see the 2x2 frame

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  • 07-30-2015, 10:17 PM
    Cold Djinn
    Re: Help ID my red tail
    Sure wish they sold sheets of that in my area.

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  • 07-30-2015, 10:24 PM
    frostysBP
    Re: Help ID my red tail
    Do you have a manards

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  • 08-02-2015, 02:19 AM
    Cold Djinn
    Re: Help ID my red tail
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frostysBP View Post
    Do you have a manards

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    Nope.

    Never even heard of them.

    Got a Home Depot and Lowes and neither sells that stuff.

    We used to have MilMar Plastics which sold sheets of PVC sort of like that, at high prices but they recently went under after 50-some years of business.
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