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  • 07-09-2015, 12:28 AM
    ShiffyAME
    1 clutch...2 awesome paradox babies! Paradox Phantom Ivory and Paradox Ivory!!!
    These 2 paradox beauties were hatched from a Phantom Yb x Ivory pairing. Talk about nice seeing two equally stunning paradox siblings pipping side by side!!! Paradox Phantom Ivory and Paradox Ivory, Tough to even try and decide which one I like better.

    http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/...pspmapib77.jpg

    http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4fstwyij.jpg

    http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/...psuxofnjpc.jpg

    http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/...psrywv1i2u.jpg
  • 07-09-2015, 12:35 AM
    stickyalvinroll
    Idk what a paradox is but its freakin cool
  • 07-09-2015, 01:46 AM
    tacticalveterinarian
    Re: 1 clutch...2 awesome paradox babies! Paradox Phantom Ivory and Paradox Ivory!!!
    Congrats! I love white paradox snakes!
  • 07-09-2015, 01:50 AM
    Aercadia
    Oooo lucky!! How to choose... they are both cuties!

    Paradox is a term given when a known presentation is interrupted by another presentation of color that should not be there. For example, these Ivories should present as all-white snakes, but they present patches of black and brown colorization. Albinos can also sometimes present with a paradox, areas of black and brown colorization on a snake that is specifically bred to present none of that colorization at all.

    One theory on paradoxes seems to be that these snakes are chimeras - 2 embryos with different genes that fused into 1 during very early development, causing a single animal to develop with 2 sets of DNA, which both present as they "should"... but on a single animal. Another theory is that it is simply a mutation within a somatic cell early in development, causing daughter cells to also carry the mutation, which presents as the paradox coloration in the otherwise standard presentation of the animal. SCIENCE​. Nobody knows for sure.
  • 07-09-2015, 02:13 AM
    anicatgirl
    These are gorgeous!!! Congrats on such stunning little ones :bow::bow::bow:
  • 07-09-2015, 05:36 AM
    ARBallMorphs
    wow, nice!!

    if it where mine babies I would keep both if I could if I had to choose 1 I would keep the higher with one
  • 07-09-2015, 06:56 AM
    joelouis821
    Re: 1 clutch...2 awesome paradox babies! Paradox Phantom Ivory and Paradox Ivory!!!
    Congrats! Very nice!!!!
  • 07-09-2015, 07:42 AM
    John1982
    Very nice, congrats! I'm partial to the lower white one myself.
  • 07-09-2015, 09:32 AM
    Albert Clark
    Re: 1 clutch...2 awesome paradox babies! Paradox Phantom Ivory and Paradox Ivory!!!
    Totally amazing! Odds gods were looking for you, haha. Healthy too! :gj: :gj: :gj:
  • 07-09-2015, 10:33 AM
    ShiffyAME
    Thanks everybody! I can't wait to see what they will look like when they shed out :-) I doubt it will make it any easier to let one go lol
  • 07-09-2015, 10:39 AM
    TheSnakeEye
    Very cool. Are you going to keep any of them?
  • 07-09-2015, 10:40 AM
    AKA Dave
    Re: 1 clutch...2 awesome paradox babies! Paradox Phantom Ivory and Paradox Ivory!!!
    OK, those are freekin' cool.

    Dave
  • 07-09-2015, 07:42 PM
    BumbleB
    Beautiful paradox babies. Hope I'm lucky to hatch some babies with paradox spots when I start breeding
  • 07-09-2015, 10:41 PM
    Tigerhawk
    I would have to keep both of them. They are both so cool. Please post pictures after they have shed.
  • 07-10-2015, 06:25 AM
    ARBallMorphs
    I know I already said it but you should really keep them both, but better yet if the are a male and a female breed them together.

    I know paradox isn't genetic but more a "freak" of nature but looking at those too, I would just try not expacting to much from it as far paradoxing goes but I would regret it the rest of my live if I didnt try especially since they are both from the same cluth.

    I have a Calico Super Pastel male that has 2 paradox spots, he has locked a couple of times with my Lesser Pastel female, if she lays eggs and one of the female babies has paradoxing going on you can bet I'll keep her and try to breed her back to the father.

    But like I said, I know paradox is not genetic but I just would have to try it :D
  • 07-10-2015, 07:46 AM
    gaiaeagle
    I'm partial to the low white one. They are both stunning.

    I understand the excitement of hatching out something special like that. We just hatched out a female Mojave that has a ringer. She is definitely staying in the collection.
  • 07-10-2015, 02:50 PM
    ShiffyAME
    Re: 1 clutch...2 awesome paradox babies! Paradox Phantom Ivory and Paradox Ivory!!!
    Thanks for the kind words everybody! We are very pleased with these 2 boys!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TheSnakeEye View Post
    Very cool. Are you going to keep any of them?

    Yes I will be keeping the Paradox Ivory Phantom male to breed back to his Ivory mom and a few other girls and also might keep the one female out the clutch, a phantom yb.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tigerhawk View Post
    I would have to keep both of them. They are both so cool. Please post pictures after they have shed.

    I definitely will be sharing more pics after they shed out!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ARBallMorphs View Post
    I know I already said it but you should really keep them both, but better yet if the are a male and a female breed them together.

    I know paradox isn't genetic but more a "freak" of nature but looking at those too, I would just try not expacting to much from it as far paradoxing goes but I would regret it the rest of my live if I didnt try especially since they are both from the same cluth.

    I have a Calico Super Pastel male that has 2 paradox spots, he has locked a couple of times with my Lesser Pastel female, if she lays eggs and one of the female babies has paradoxing going on you can bet I'll keep her and try to breed her back to the father.

    But like I said, I know paradox is not genetic but I just would have to try it :D

    Considering there are 2 extremely paradox animals in the clutch we can't help but keep the phantom ivory paradox male to play with. Besides breeding him back to mom means Paradox Phantom Ivory x Ivory pairing....that's my kind of dinker project! "worse case scenerio" no paradox pop out but I get a whole clutch of Ivory and Phantom Ivory!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gaiaeagle View Post
    I'm partial to the low white one. They are both stunning.

    I understand the excitement of hatching out something special like that. We just hatched out a female Mojave that has a ringer. She is definitely staying in the collection.

    Thanks yes it is always exciting to hatch out babies. Even more so exciting when you are thrown a curveball like this and see not one but 2 babies this awesome you had no idea could possibly be produced from that pairing! Congrats on the Mojave Ringer!
  • 07-11-2015, 06:22 PM
    Slowcountry Balls
    Nice snakes! Paradox animals are really cool. Is it just me, or do most paradox animals seem to be Ivories? I know there are paradox animals from the Blue Eyed Leucistic complex, but the majority of the ones I have seen seem to be Ivories.
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