Lesserbee or bumblebee please helpppp!

we brought a snake from a pet shop back in feburary 2015 and was told she is a lesserbee, after looking at 3073748323 pictures of lesserbees i realised she is very different to all pictures i found on the internet. i had posted on facebook python forums asking peoples opinions and most people said she was a bumblebee. she is a cb14 and weighs 350grams. she is white with a dark grey/brown stripe down her back with a dark brown patterning.

i would really appreciate your time
its driving me nuts wondering what she is!

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bumblebee

I'm going with Bumblebee.

she is just nothing like any bumblebee or lesserbee ive seen which is why im umming and arrring ablut it so much

Yeah I'm definitely going with bumblebee as well

Looks a lot like a pewterbee to me.

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Originally Posted by Laurenjade00

she is just nothing like any bumblebee or lesserbee ive seen which is why im umming and arrring ablut it so much

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the top picture looks like plenty of bumblebees, your bottom picture looks like the colors are off

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

the top picture looks like plenty of bumblebees, your bottom picture looks like the colors are off

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What do you mean by the colours are off? Just like shes quite dull. Shes definately different! Not seem anything like her bless her

Actually that's a queen bee :gj:.

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Originally Posted by h00blah

Actually that's a queen bee :gj:.

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i would love nothing more for her to be a queenbee i really would. Weve been told lots of different things like butterbee bumblebee lesserbee pewterbee ect. So confused shes obviously one of a kind if noone can directly tell us what she is.

But a queenbee would be good 🙊

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Originally Posted by Laurenjade00

i would love nothing more for her to be a queenbee i really would. Weve been told lots of different things like butterbee bumblebee lesserbee pewterbee ect. So confused shes obviously one of a kind if noone can directly tell us what she is.

But a queenbee would be good 🙊

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It's a queen bee :gj: lol. I guess you can't prove me right until you breed her haha. The head pattern is different than a standard lesserbee because the pastel adds blushing, causing it to look broken up and funky, opposed to a typical spider head. I can barely see it, but her eyes look a bit closer to blue-ish than green, which some queenbees have. Most of them are blue, but I've seen greenish-blue eyes on queens as well.

Yours looks to have similar patterning to #12 on this Queen Bee page:
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/queen-bee/

You can see what I mean by the head blushing. The color doesn't look like standard bee color. More like lesserbee color, but if pastel was added.... lol..

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Originally Posted by h00blah

It's a queen bee :gj: lol. I guess you can't prove me right until you breed her haha. The head pattern is different than a standard lesserbee because the pastel adds blushing, causing it to look broken up and funky, opposed to a typical spider head. I can barely see it, but her eyes look a bit closer to blue-ish than green, which some queenbees have. Most of them are blue, but I've seen greenish-blue eyes on queens as well.

Yours looks to have similar patterning to #12 on this Queen Bee page:
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/queen-bee/

You can see what I mean by the head blushing. The color doesn't look like standard bee color. More like lesserbee color, but if pastel was added.... lol..

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I do agree with you that number 12 looks like her alot. I thought that when i had a look at world of ball pythons earlier!

i really do appriciate your time. Got a very long wait before we can breed her shes on 350gram cb14 but i will post when we do :)

thanks again!

Looks like a pewterbee to me. That would be a very dark queen for her size. Heres a pic of a 310g pewterbee.

http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/88170/1...3EI8J1r8t7.jpg

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Originally Posted by aalomon

Looks like a pewterbee to me. That would be a very dark queen for her size. Heres a pic of a 310g pewterbee.

http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/88170/1...3EI8J1r8t7.jpg

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God this is really turning out to be hard haha. Shes my favourite in the collection and is so placid. The pewterbee picture does look like her alot bees are all fairly similar!

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Originally Posted by aalomon

Looks like a pewterbee to me. That would be a very dark queen for her size. Heres a pic of a 310g pewterbee.

http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/88170/1...3EI8J1r8t7.jpg

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Yeah, I can see that too. Older pewterbees I've seen gained more yellow from their axanthic looks, but yours has a ton of yellow already! That's pretty cool!

I stuck with queenbee, but I'd say it's a fair 50/50 queenbee / pewterbee. Regardless, it's definitely a triple, and not a bumble or lesserbee. So that's awesome for the OP!

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Originally Posted by h00blah

Yeah, I can see that too. Older pewterbees I've seen gained more yellow from their axanthic looks, but yours has a ton of yellow already! That's pretty cool!

I stuck with queenbee, but I'd say it's a fair 50/50 queenbee / pewterbee. Regardless, it's definitely a triple, and not a bumble or lesserbee. So that's awesome for the OP!

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Im so excited to breed her now the long wait begins till shes big enough its definately going to be a suprise either way!!!!

Def not a straight bumblebee! Very well might be a queenbee with lesser in it!

I'm not going to lie, it looks like a woma... possibly hypo or t+? Have you noticed any wobble or anything? Woma's and Spider's have been known to display the head wobble.

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Originally Posted by Burchling

I'm not going to lie, it looks like a woma... possibly hypo or t+? Have you noticed any wobble or anything? Woma's and Spider's have been known to display the head wobble.

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She does go upside down quite alot its not really a wobble she just has her head upsidedown and especially when shes excited or hungry.