Possible Trick?

Possible Trick? She looks to have the exact same pattern as Momhttp://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file.../postrick1.jpghttp://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file.../postrick2.jpghttp://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file.../postrick3.jpg

Really? No one has any idea?:(

I don't know much about the trick gene but this snake looks like a normal to me


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That's a normal... 100% not a trick. Well, not the gene at least.

Fast Shadow

What is it that tips you off that it's not a trick?

Normal

I am not a trick expert and have no interest in the gene as of yet but comparing photos to your normal, the pattern isn't even close to any of the tricks I have looked at.
Broken alien heads and joined heads that remind me of a cinny or black pastel.

I'm pretty sure the trick is supposed to have a very busy pattern


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Here's Mom. Picture is crappy, sorry. We got these snakes (21 of them) as rescues and we're trying to sort everyone out. The guy we got them from said this was a possible trick. I didn't see it but I figured I'd ask just in case.
Does anyone have any info on the distinguishing marks of a trick?
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...ostrickmom.jpg
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...strick_mom.jpg

The trick does remind me of Cinnies or the black pastel but brighter http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...1fc1d516b0.jpg

Can anyone give me distinguishing marks between cinnies, black pastel, tricks and normals? Just looking at them with so much variation isn't really doing anything. My normal, which I know is a normal, has zero alien heads, solid light markings and looks like a fire moreso than a normal. This little girl and Mom both look nothing like him. Is there a website that offers more than just pictures for identification?

World of ball pythons but not on all only certain ones people have actually spent time and put how they look and pattern ect..

Three years ago I bought my Black Pastel male from a group of imported animals. He ate great and at 650 grams and 6 months old he bred 2 normal females... hence the story of my (L.L.T Ball) Liesen Line Trick pattern started.
As you well know that when you breed a Black Pastel (co-dom)to a normal in theory you get Black Pastel and normals for offspring.
I do not get normals. What should be normals always come out TRICK PATTERN (for lack of a better descriptive word)
So I started keeping back the TRICK pattern babies and sold a few to my close friends.
Spring of 2010 gave me the answer I was looking for. In a breeding loan using my TRICK male to a friends NORMAL female the TRICK pattern came through from a 3 egg clutch along with 2 normals. Now this coming breeding season I will breed
TRICK X TRICK to see if there is going to be a SUPER to this trait.
The accompanying pics show the TRICK pattern has been holding true for several generations now.
Pic 1 is 2008 male that proved his genetic's this year
Pic 2 is a 2009 female, same pattern and yellow highlights
Pic 3 is a 2008 female, once again the same kind of pattern.
I hope that next spring to show off a NEW super from this line.
I will also be using this TRICK male on several female morphs.
Thanks for reading my story
Gary Liesen
Snakemans Snakeshop

I found that on the trick if this helps