new pair of bullsnakes

Bullsnakes have caught my eye for a while and I finally found a pair of late 2013 babies that I had to have. The male, an albino 66%whiteside and 66% axanthic, was cool the day of arrival but now when I take him out hes really hissy but still hasnt struck at me once. The female, albino whiteside 66% axanthic, was angry when I got her and I saw the scariest strike ever haha. My ball pythons rarely try to bite but when they do its a silent strike (usually my mimosa) but this girl struck and hissed at the same time it was pretty scary being my first time seeing it happen in person. Theyre both mid 200 grams so i have a head start if i ever decide to breed in the future. Thanks to kyle Mara from scaled inverts for a pleasant buying experience and for the first two pics that I'm about to post because these guys move way too quick for my own pics so far.
Male
http://i.imgur.com/giMZXKh.jpg
Female
http://i.imgur.com/0qzosUT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/h7VrVd6.jpg

Let me know what you guys think!

Those are really cool looking snakes! Thanks for sharing. :)

I love pits! I just have a female hybino Sonoran gopher snake at the moment.

Thanks guys! They both took a f/t mouse 3 days after being with me the feeding response and coil was awesome. This week I'll try a rat pup, they're definitely big enough I just wanted to start them off with a smaller meal the first time with me

Gorgeous looking Bulls you have there B. Great minds think alike I guess. I have a female albino and a male albino whiteside. They were both a bit hissy in the beginning too but they calmed down after just a few meals. They're going to grow fast so be prepared. My female was a Sep. 2013 hatchling that I got in January 2014. She was 45g when I got her and she's over 1800g now. My male was hatched July 2014 and I got him in August 2014. He was 42g on arrival and he weighed 520g a few days ago. Pits are awesome snakes to keep. Best wishes with yours and keep the pictures coming! :)

That's good to know ziggy! I can't wait to see them with some size on them. Second feeding tonight went great these guys are nuts I dropped the f/t rat in the enclosure and went to pick it up anything that moved my male was ready to kill haha

Welcome to the pit crew, excellent choices!

Thanks john! I'm happy I finally found a pair

That albino male is awesome! Love his colors.

Bulls are a riot. Good looking snakes :)

I've been offered 2015 pair of Hypo Ghost bull snakes at a bargain price as the guy is emigrating ..
I had a young Pine snake for a while a few years ago so I presume they're similar ...
They're both under 2' at the moment but I've just read that they grow incredibly fast !?!

Does that mean they're gonna be over 4' in 12 months time ??

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Originally Posted by Zincubus

I've been offered 2015 pair of Hypo Ghost bull snakes at a bargain price as the guy is emigrating ..
I had a young Pine snake for a while a few years ago so I presume they're similar ...
They're both under 2' at the moment but I've just read that they grow incredibly fast !?!

Does that mean they're gonna be over 4' in 12 months time ??

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Mine are usually right around 3 feet as yearlings and 4-5 feet by their second year. Can go slower, can go faster - a lot depends on genetics and food availability.

John's right, snakes can grow at different rates. Both of my bulls were right around 4ft and 1000g by their 1st birthday.

I've read that Bull snakes tend to top out at 6' with the odd one reaching 7' but if some yearlings can be 4' is that figure way off and they'll be nearer 7' or 8' or do they slow down after two years or something ??
They're both 2015 apparently - female is under 24" and weighs 100g - the male is smaller . Sounds like they're not going to be monster -sized especially as I don't believe in power feeding .

I can have them at a 1/4 of the price he paid last year so it's a bargain So another big decision to make ..

depends on how much you feed them. One thing I have noticed about bulls when compared to my other snakes is that they do need more food and need to eat more often, which is what makes them such great 'garbage can' snakes. I once got to handle a bulllsnake that was over 8 feet long.

They are very pretty and on this herp trip, we saw an approximately 7 foot specimen hidden in a log hollow.

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...olilla/004.jpg

Their pattern reminded me of something between a rattler and a some species of wild carpet python.

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...olilla/005.jpg

They handle pretty well in the wild, and seem like they'd be very interesting to keep.

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depends on how much you feed them. One thing I have noticed about bulls when compared to my other snakes is that they do need more food and need to eat more often, which is what makes them such great 'garbage can' snakes. I once got to handle a bulllsnake that was over 8 feet long.

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MarkS,

These were located on some private land owned by the U of M in the northern part of the metro. A friend of mine has access to the land.

Not wanting to take away from the O/Ps original post as his captive bred bulls look amazing. Seeing a true 8 footer will be a goal of mine this spring.

They don't seem to have a lot of fear as they are out in the open. This is their natural habitat.

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...olilla/003.jpg

Although they do do some controlled burns here so the cover is usually a bit thicker.

My female is a little over 2 y/o and she's about 6.5 ft. My male will be 2 in July and he's about 5.5 ft. He's not nearly as thick as the female though. He's about 1300g and she's at least 2300g. I haven't weighed the female since last May when she was 2100g. I last weighed the male in Nov. and he was 1200g at the time.

http://i1319.photobucket.com/albums/...pstdj8osrr.jpg

http://i1319.photobucket.com/albums/...psz343kdxz.jpg

WOW! Very nice Zig!

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MarkS,

These were located on some private land owned by the U of M in the northern part of the metro. A friend of mine has access to the land.

Not wanting to take away from the O/Ps original post as his captive bred bulls look amazing. Seeing a true 8 footer will be a goal of mine this spring.

They don't seem to have a lot of fear as they are out in the open. This is their natural habitat.

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...olilla/003.jpg

Although they do do some controlled burns here so the cover is usually a bit thicker.

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I think I've been there. I went to a U of M property just north of the metro that was a large sand prairie as part of a wildflower identification class. We saw quite a few bullsnakes.