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Opal the Pastel Champagne

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  • 03-31-2015, 02:07 PM
    Snake Judy
    Opal the Pastel Champagne
    Long time lurker, first time poster!

    Recently brought this girl home, my first ball. Excited, to say the least. I think she's perfect! She seems to be adjusting really nicely, and took her first meal without a hitch.

    I'm curious, because I haven't really come across it in any photos - are odd-eyed balls a thing? One of her eyes is a bright grey-blue, with the pupil clearly visible, while the other is very dark. Very interested to see if they'll change any as she gets older.


    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...15_03_30-1.jpg

    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...15_03_30-4.jpg

    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...15_03_30-5.jpg

    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...15_03_31-1.jpg

    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...15_03_30-6.jpg
  • 03-31-2015, 02:25 PM
    Sirensong26
    Dichromatic eyes isn't unheard of in cats and dogs but I've never seen it in a snake before. That looks really neat to have the one black and the other not!
  • 03-31-2015, 02:57 PM
    Reinz
    Hi Snake Judy, welcome to the forum.

    You have a pretty girl there!

    That is interesting about her eyes. Just a few months ago, my adult Normal had only one eye turn milky/gray as if going into shed. But she was fasting and not shedding during this period. I guess her systems were all messed up.
  • 03-31-2015, 03:04 PM
    Snake Judy
    Re: Opal the Pastel Champagne
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Reinz View Post
    Hi Snake Judy, welcome to the forum.

    You have a pretty girl there!

    That is interesting about her eyes. Just a few months ago, my adult Normal had only one eye turn milky/gray as if going into shed. But she was fasting and not shedding during this period. I guess her systems were all messed up.

    Thanks!

    Yeah, both of her eyes are clear and bright and seem healthy. I do hope it's a trait she'll keep as she grows, because it's pretty neat.
  • 03-31-2015, 03:08 PM
    Dave Green
    I've hatched a couple champagnes with different colored eyes, one was a pastel champ and the other was a super pastel champ. Both were like yours, one blue eye and one black eye. I kept one for a couple years and the eyes didn't change at all. Very cool snake by the way.
  • 03-31-2015, 04:44 PM
    Tsanford
    My Champagne's eyes are completely black. You can't tell when its going to shed either because the eyes don't get milky. But its probably because of the pastel gene that the eye color only effected one.
  • 03-31-2015, 05:20 PM
    Snake Judy
    Re: Opal the Pastel Champagne
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dave Green View Post
    I've hatched a couple champagnes with different colored eyes, one was a pastel champ and the other was a super pastel champ. Both were like yours, one blue eye and one black eye. I kept one for a couple years and the eyes didn't change at all. Very cool snake by the way.

    Oh very cool! Thanks for the info.
  • 03-31-2015, 06:16 PM
    Albert Clark
    Re: Opal the Pastel Champagne
    Beautiful animal! I think by looking at it, it appears to be a form of what's known as "chimera". Meaning different genes on opposite sides of a organisms body and presenting as different colors ,and affects hair color, limb size. In a more serious form chimera can affect internal organs like the liver and the heart becoming fatally problematic. It's seen in salamanders, frogs and toads also. :gj:
  • 03-31-2015, 06:38 PM
    Albert Clark
    Re: Opal the Pastel Champagne
    More on the "chimera" phenomenon. An animal chimera is a single organism that is comprised of two or more different populations of genetically distinct cells that originated from different zygotes involved in sexual reproduction. Animal chimeras are produced by the merger of multiple fertilized eggs. Also can present with different eye color and differing hair growths on opposite sides of the body.:salute:
  • 03-31-2015, 06:55 PM
    Daigga
    Re: Opal the Pastel Champagne
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Albert Clark View Post
    More on the "chimera" phenomenon. An animal chimera is a single organism that is comprised of two or more different populations of genetically distinct cells that originated from different zygotes involved in sexual reproduction. Animal chimeras are produced by the merger of multiple fertilized eggs. Also can present with different eye color and differing hair growths on opposite sides of the body.:salute:

    Chimeras are also exceptionally rare and incredibly difficult to correctly identify without testing. Things like heterochromia are commonly called an indicator of chimerism, but it isn't nearly so simple nor is it a definitive sign.
  • 03-31-2015, 07:59 PM
    Snake Judy
    Re: Opal the Pastel Champagne
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Daigga View Post
    Chimeras are also exceptionally rare and incredibly difficult to correctly identify without testing. Things like heterochromia are commonly called an indicator of chimerism, but it isn't nearly so simple nor is it a definitive sign.

    Agreed, I think chimerism is pretty unlikely, especially since Dave mentioned that he has produced other pastel champagnes with heterochromia. But who knows!
  • 11-02-2015, 07:57 PM
    Dakota11
    another champ with odd eyes
    hi,
    I have a pastel champ or super pastel champ hatching (cant quite figure out which it is yet) with the same eye color difference. please keep us posted as im very curious if it relates to incubation or any of which others have said.
  • 11-03-2015, 01:34 AM
    Snake Judy
    Re: another champ with odd eyes
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dakota11 View Post
    hi,
    I have a pastel champ or super pastel champ hatching (cant quite figure out which it is yet) with the same eye color difference. please keep us posted as im very curious if it relates to incubation or any of which others have said.

    Neat! Show us a picture! There's been no change to my girls odd-coloured eyes since I got her. I love it! It seems special.

    Since you revived this thread for me, here's a couple recent ones.

    http://40.media.tumblr.com/4226f3a15...dv2o1_1280.jpg


    http://41.media.tumblr.com/c08c90e1c...dv2o1_1280.jpg

    http://41.media.tumblr.com/8bfb544e9...dv2o1_1280.jpg
  • 11-03-2015, 03:24 PM
    jedimojeaux
    Opal is gorgeous! I'm so impressed that I'm talking to someone about a pastel champagne now! I've wanted another BP for a while now and couldn't decide. These pics certainly helped me make up my mind!
  • 11-03-2015, 08:57 PM
    Snake Judy
    Re: Opal the Pastel Champagne
    Thanks! I think she's beautiful. I'm glad that's the morph I ended up choosing. I feel like she's been yellowing up lately so I'm excited to see what she'll look like as she continues to grow.
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