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Help with identification?

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  • 03-22-2015, 11:19 PM
    Creepy Alien
    Help with identification?
    I posted this on another forum, but hoped might get some opinions here as well. I appreciate any and all help/ideas/knowledge [emoji3] .

    Hi there. I was hoping someone could show off their skills and help me identify this guy that I got yesterday. I think he seems a little skinny and there are a few things that I could pick at with how he may have been kept, but overall I'm very happy with him. I'm going to let him settle in a bit and then see about fattening him up some :-) .

    Any help at all would be appreciated (even if they are just guesses). If you'd like to see any better pictures, just let me know.

    Thanks very much in advance!

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  • 03-23-2015, 01:39 AM
    anicatgirl
    I have no clue on RTB morphs, but he sure is pretty, with that lovely bright tail!
  • 03-23-2015, 01:54 AM
    Sonny1318
    I want to guess Peruvian, but I'm probably wrong.
  • 03-23-2015, 02:09 AM
    Creepy Alien
    Re: Help with identification?
    Thanks for both your replies :-) . I appreciate any input at all... guesses (and compliments) as well ;-) .

    So do you think "True" Red Tail applies here, regardless of locality (as in Boa Constrictor Constrictor)? I've had Columbians way back and they didn't look like this.

    Thanks again! All input is definitely appreciated!
  • 03-23-2015, 02:15 AM
    Sonny1318
    Yes, it is definitely a true red tail.
  • 03-23-2015, 02:21 AM
    Creepy Alien
    Re: Help with identification?
    Cool :-) ... not bad for $75 then? ;-) .
  • 03-23-2015, 02:57 AM
    Sonny1318
    No not bad at all, nice man enjoy.
  • 03-23-2015, 03:03 AM
    Creepy Alien
    Re: Help with identification?
    Thanks :-) ... the money wasn't the biggest thing... I just felt lucky to have gotten such a beautiful snake :-) .
  • 03-23-2015, 03:45 AM
    Sonny1318
    Do you know if it's a female or not?
  • 03-23-2015, 03:46 AM
    Creepy Alien
    Re: Help with identification?
    It's supposed to be a male, but I don't know for sure.
  • 03-23-2015, 04:48 AM
    Reinz
    Boy, he sure is a Beauty!

    Well worth the money too.

    Congrats!
  • 03-23-2015, 11:41 AM
    Creepy Alien
    Re: Help with identification?
    Thanks very much... I was pretty happy to get him... plus I know he'll be taken care of better. There are a couple of spots that look as though he was rubbing on his previous cage... nothing serious (and I think it will be fine in a couple of sheds)... he seems thin... and maybe was a little dehydrated.... AND... the best part was how his pillowcase reaked of "smoke" smell... as soon as the guy pulled away from the gas station I met him at, I threw the pillow case in the garbage (I had a spare).

    I think he's fine and think he'd been looked after great (until maybe just recently), but I'm happy to have gotten him. We pretty much just have Columbians here (the area where I live) and a few morphs. If he is a true Red Tail like I think he is, I feel even luckier ... no matter what though, he's pretty great to me :-) .
  • 03-23-2015, 11:53 AM
    Sonny1318
    I'm pretty positive that's a true red tail. I'd bet on it. Enjoy.
  • 03-23-2015, 11:59 AM
    Creepy Alien
    Re: Help with identification?
    Thanks :-) . It's one of those things that doesn't really matter... and I love Columbians and all the Boa Constrictors (and love how they look)... but I've always wanted a BCC and have never even seen one in person... plus you have all the misinformation about them.

    It's still really nice to have it confirmed by others though... (and pretty fun trying to figure out exactly what he might be) :-) .
  • 03-24-2015, 09:38 PM
    Orion
    Definitely BCC....maybe Brazilian?
  • 03-24-2015, 09:42 PM
    Creepy Alien
    Re: Help with identification?
    I appreciate your post, thanks [emoji3] . My wife was looking through a ton of boa pictures and that's exactly what she thought as well [emoji3] . Its pretty amazing how much they can vary.
  • 05-20-2015, 05:37 PM
    Gerardo
    What are you looking at that lets you know its a bcc?
  • 05-20-2015, 05:40 PM
    midgard
    Nice looking boa.
  • 05-20-2015, 06:10 PM
    Creepy Alien
    Re: Help with identification?
    Gerardo: I don't know for sure... just from what others have told me and from comparing pictures of other BCCs. It could be a cross or something all together for all I know :) (but it doesn't look like BCIs that I've personally seen).

    midgard: Thanks :) .
  • 05-20-2015, 06:47 PM
    KitaCat
    Re: Help with identification?
    Definitely BCC. The bright red/white tail is the main giveaway, but also the crazy belly pattern. Also the saddles are "different" but not in a way I can really describe. [emoji14]
    Beautiful snake!
  • 05-20-2015, 06:52 PM
    Creepy Alien
    Re: Help with identification?
    Thanks very much :) . He ended up coming with free mites too, but I managed to beat them in the end... still worth it :-) .
  • 05-20-2015, 06:58 PM
    Gio
    Re: Help with identification?
    Impossible to tell without locality data. You could try a scale count. I would guess BCC/BCI cross.

    There are qualities of both there.

    For reference this is a BCI

    http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...a/IMG_2486.jpg


    However this locality (Barranquilla Colombia) is what a natural cross of BCC and BCI would look like.


    Gus Rentfro was very close to calling this line BCC but because he was only 99% sure he kept the BCI title. The scale counts differ from "common" BCI
    on this locality as do some other traits.


    There is so much mixing and matching going on in the trade, that it is very difficult without locality data to be certain what you have. Unless the breeder can trace back the parents and import roots you may call it a BCU.

    U is unknown.


    But for sure BCC in there (your snake) somewhere and a good bit of it.

    Is that animal in shed by chance?
  • 05-20-2015, 07:39 PM
    Creepy Alien
    Re: Help with identification?
    Thanks for all of the info... I'll check out how to do a scale count and try that. I just got him from "some guy", so I really can't find out anymore than he told me, (and that wasn't much unfortunately).

    The picture was from awhile ago, but I believe he was in shed. He just shed again, so I'll try to update this thread with new pictures soon.

    It's pretty fun having a boa when I mostly have Ball Pythons. He never disappoints at mealtime :) .
  • 05-20-2015, 07:47 PM
    Gio
    Yep,

    Its hard to 100% tell, some Guyana BCCs get rather dark, but if your snake was in shed it may have a different look than normal.

    No matter what you have, I think its nice and I'd expect maybe a larger full grown adult at the end.
  • 05-20-2015, 08:03 PM
    Creepy Alien
    Re: Help with identification?
    Thanks very much :) . I really love him either way. I had boas 15 plus years ago. I wasn't planning on getting another one, but I couldn't resist him :) . I think he's a really good size to get reacquainted with boas again. He's VERY good natured and curious about everything. I forgot how different Boas were from Ball Pythons :) .
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