Pastel Clown or Clown Pastel?

So my new guy from JKR arrived today and I love him!!!! So I had to grab a few quick picks before getting him into the quarantine tub to get acclimated to his new home. After getting him unboxed and photographed I entered him into Reptile Scan so I could start tracking him and this had me thinking. Justin had him listed as a Pastel Clown which I think flows better off the tongue than Clown Pastel but that's how I've seen them listed elsewhere. Does anyone know if there is a general rule as far as listing out the genetics of an animal when naming it? i.e. recessive, co-dom, dominate?

Here are a few of the pics.
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Nice pickup! As for the names I don't think there's any rule I guess what sounds best unless the maker gives the combo a nickname. In your case I usually see pastel clown

I don't know. However he looks great.

There aren't naming rules beyond trying to make every effort to call-out the genetics as accurately as you are able. As long as you're not misrepresenting your animals, people will know what you mean.

For cases of codom/recessive combos, generally you see codom genes written first and the recessive gene second. Enchi Pied, Leopard Clown, Pastel Orange Ghost, are common examples, but it's not correct or incorrect either way. There are even some combos where it's more common to see them written the opposite of what I just wrote.

To each their own. Cheers!

In the NERD Morph book it says go alphabetical.

Nice pickup, Congrats! :gj:

Great looking animal.

Thanks guys. I have the Morph Makers Guide book too and saw the references to going alphabetical too but he also switches that at times to lead with the super form first then go alpha. As I fugured though no rule just what ever sounds right. On WOBP it's listed as a Clown Pastel and a search of the morph list by Pastel Clown won't return any results. Too funny.
Cheers, Jeff

Either way you have an excellent specimen, I want one but the prices I've seen range from 900-1300.

If you doing something that needs standardization I would personally go alphabetical, general talk, say w/e you want

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Originally Posted by Tsanford

Either way you have an excellent specimen, I want one but the prices I've seen range from 900-1300.

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I got him for under that but this was my 4th snake from Justin so he cut me a break.

I did see a breeding size male at repticon last week for $850 that was quite nice, the breeder was Gary and Burning Garage Reptiles in VA, if you do a search you can find his Facebook page. I've never bought from him but I've spend a fair amount of time talking to him at past repticon shows and he's a good guy. Use to own a pet store for 30 years then recently closed it to focus on ball python breeding.

There really is no standardized naming, but I've never heard a Pastel Clown called a Clown Pastel.

Kevin doesn't even follow his own naming "guidelines". He adds Fader at the end of everything.... lol!!

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Originally Posted by coreydelong

There really is no standardized naming, but I've never heard a Pastel Clown called a Clown Pastel.

Kevin doesn't even follow his own naming "guidelines". He adds Fader at the end of everything.... lol!!

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Ha ha ha so true. He also still seems to favor Jungle too. LOL

Nice pick up, justin snake are just amazing. his average quality is really high and he takes time to talk about projects with anyone even on line, even to a guy who didn t buy anything from him. His clown project is just crazy...

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Originally Posted by darkranger69

Nice pick up, justin snake are just amazing. his average quality is really high and he takes time to talk about projects with anyone even on line, even to a guy who didn t buy anything from him. His clown project is just crazy...

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Yeah, his pastel leopard clowns are a future project Ive been thinking of, in the future I'll see about picking up a female leopard. Right now I have no space for any others.

I list the morphs in alphabetical order myself.
Edit: with het. listed at the end.

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Originally Posted by Lupe

I list the morphs in alphabetical order myself.
Edit: with het. listed at the end.

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Makes sense, I agree with het listed at the end but I've been curious, why are some genetic traits called het such as Het Red Axanthic? I have a HRA Super Pastel Lesser and I've not found any explanation why its referred to as "het" Red Axanthic? Any one know why?

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Originally Posted by C2tcardin

Makes sense, I agree with het listed at the end but I've been curious, why are some genetic traits called het such as Het Red Axanthic? I have a HRA Super Pastel Lesser and I've not found any explanation why its referred to as "het" Red Axanthic? Any one know why?

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the original was so subtle that they didn't even consider it a inc-dom gene they thought it was recessive.

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

the original was so subtle that they didn't even consider it a inc-dom gene they thought it was recessive.

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So it was proven out but the name stayed the same?