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Enclosure shopping newb
Hello all!
I am in the research stage for buying my first ball python (which will be my first reptile) and I want to make sure I get things right.
I read that PVC is easier to keep clean and humid than glass, which sounds awesome to me! I live in Idaho, which can get quite dry in the summer. So, I am shopping for some snake tanks.
I also read that PVC from say, Wal Mart works just fine, but really I'd like something that displays the snake at least a little. Though, ease-of-cleaning is a big thing for me so I may end up going the Sterlite route anyways, but I figured I'd pick out some possibilities. Cost is not a huge deal, as I am willing to pay for a snake's comfort, but I do like to be cost-effective :)
Some good-looking ones I've found so far:
This site has a nice starter kit it seems, which includes stuff like substrate, thermometers, and such. That would be nice, to get everything in one go, if it is all good stuff. Kinda pricey though. http://www.lllreptile.com/catalog/45...-cage-packages
There is also this one that makes really nice-looking ones, though also slightly pricey: http://www.showcasecages.com/cage_details.htm
These ones look good, too, and seem more reasonably-priced. I am leaning towards this, unless the starter kit above is more cost-effective. http://www.coldbloodedenclosures.com...hk=1&Itemid=14
But I'm not really sure what size to get for adult ball python? (I want to do the buy adult-sized-enclosure, fill it with lots of hides thing). People say 30 gallons, but the websites advertise in dimensions like W x H x D. Trying to figure this one out so I know about how much I'm going to be spending and how big a space I need! lol. I suppose I can always message the companies themselves....but really, what dimensions are ideal for adult ball pythons?
And are any of the PVC cage options above not so good? Any other recommended PVC snake cages out there aside from the ones I listed? :)
Sorry for my newbie-ness. Been doing lots of reading and I want to treat my first snake right :) Thanks for the help!
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After I posted the above, I saw someone mention Animal Plastics. Oooh nice, definitely adding those to my list.
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I just put together my first Animal Plastics cage this weekend, it's so awesome, I love it. I've had my BP for about 5 weeks I think. She ate her first meal, but skipped I think 4 since then. After putting her in the AP cage on Sunday, she ate the next meal I offered her on Monday. Coincidence? Maybe :D
Don't be afraid to call them if you have questions, you'll love Ali.
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Oh, and I went from a glass aquarium to the AP cage. With humidity issues around here, the glass is a nightmare compared to the AP.
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What size one did you get? :) and how big is your snake?
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Outtkast, as a fellow humidity struggler (whose T8 should be shipping soon), how much better was your humidity situation?
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Wingbeats - I got the T8 with a divider. My BP is about 130 grams and setup in half of the T8. I'm going to put a corn snake in the other half until the BP needs the whole thing for herself.
Nodnarb - My humidity has been around 30% in my house. I have my 10 gallon glass aquarium screen taped up to keep the humidity in and I was misting twice a day just to keep it around 50%. And it would still drop down to 30% between mistings. With the T8, the humidity has stayed at 50% with just a water bowl under the radiant heat panel that I installed. I haven't tried misting yet and I'm not sure if I will. My moss just came in the mail yesterday and I might just make a humid hide and leave it with that.
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If you're looking for a great display terrarium, i'd definitely go with Animal Plastics. I have three of their enclosures (different sizes) and I couldn't be happier. Never have to worry about my temperature or humidity.
The only drawback is the waiting time for the delivery but in my opinion, it's worth the wait.
Here's part of my setup. This is a T8 on top of a T10.
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...96bde15c54.jpg
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Good to hear, Mr Misha :) They're pretty reasonably-priced, also!
What size is good for an adult ball python? I'm still not sure which one to get! I only want one snake as a pet.
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Originally Posted by wingbeats
Good to hear, Mr Misha :) They're pretty reasonably-priced, also!
What size is good for an adult ball python? I'm still not sure which one to get! I only want one snake as a pet.
A T3 or T8 are suitable for an adult BP.
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I agree, T8 would probably be the best bang for your buck. Plus, it's a "quick ship" item so it ships in a couple of weeks instead a couple of months.
If you go the T8 route, I suggest getting the partition that AP sells for $20 bucks so while the BP is growing, the enclosure isn't too big for him and he feels safe and comfortable in his home.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Misha
I agree, T8 would probably be the best bang for your buck. Plus, it's a "quick ship" item so it ships in a couple of weeks instead a couple of months.
If you go the T8 route, I suggest getting the partition that AP sells for $20 bucks so while the BP is growing, the enclosure isn't too big for him and he feels safe and comfortable in his home.
Agreed, best bang for buck, and more importantly; get the divider for small snake.
also, even half a T8 is quite luxurious if your snake is hatchling or yearling. If this is the case, be sure to provide plenty of hiding spots and cover
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Thanks so much guys! I'll plan on that :) I can nab a T8 on my next paycheck.
Indeed, I plan to get an adult-sized enclosure, and then divide it and cover it with all kinds of hides for a little snake :)
I'm excited! I'm planning on some manner of pretty little axanthic <3
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Originally Posted by wingbeats
I'm excited! I'm planning on some manner of pretty little axanthic <3
That sounds awesome!
Also, read through this sticky thread if you haven't yet. It's all about the T8.
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=165571
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Mr. Misha, question as I see you have the lighting in yours. Likely something I should've considered before ordering my T8, but are their lightning fixtures compatible with a RHP?
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Originally Posted by Nodnarb3do
Mr. Misha, question as I see you have the lighting in yours. Likely something I should've considered before ordering my T8, but are their lightning fixtures compatible with a RHP?
Since I have multiple enclosures I went with a LED lighting setup I bought from a local hardware store.
What do you mean by compatible light fixture? The RHP and the light are two independent things and have nothing to do anything with each other.
Here's the thread I did on my lighting setup. It's a bit expensive but I love it:
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=210139
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As in would physically fit. I haven't seen what their included fluorescent fixture actually looks like, so I don't know if it will physically fit with an RHP attached to the top of the enclosure.
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Originally Posted by Nodnarb3do
As in would physically fit. I haven't seen what their included fluorescent fixture actually looks like, so I don't know if it will physically fit with an RHP attached to the top of the enclosure.
Yea, it will definitely fit. Check the T8 thread and you'll see the florescent fixtures they use.
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I went with the same LED system, love it.
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i have been toying with the idea of getting a T8 for Loki and moving him out of his tank. I have the tank screen mostly sealed with foil and duct tape, and he is perfectly healthy in it. but, since he will be around for a while, i have been thinking of splurging a bit and getting him something that looks alot nicer. Espacially since this is the first year I can remember not spending any of my tax return on guns, I have a little extra jingle in my pocket. The only thing stopping me is that I could just get another snake and keep him/her in Loki's old 10 gal or put him/her in a tub.
So, new enclosure for Loki, or should I get my wife her own snake?
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