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  • 02-23-2015, 09:04 AM
    beartg
    Leopard het. Pied "Pic heavy"
  • 02-23-2015, 01:41 PM
    Slowcountry Balls
    Leopard is a cool morph. Yours looks to have a nicely reduced pattern. It may help to let you snake unball so we can see the whole pattern.
  • 02-23-2015, 02:03 PM
    BrianDallek
    Can i ask where you got the snake? Ive never seen a leopard look like this.
  • 02-23-2015, 02:26 PM
    beartg
    Originally she's from the Gekko reptiles Belgium. But I bought her in the Terraplaza expo, Hungary.

    I can't unroll her long enough to take a photo ( she's a little nervous right now ), but here's some more "ball" python. :D

    http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/...psad1d2551.jpg

    http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/...ps525a1c13.jpg

    http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/...psb357f8dd.jpg

    http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/...pse7749263.jpg
  • 02-23-2015, 02:31 PM
    Slowcountry Balls
    She's really impressive. I've never seen such a reduced pattern Leopard. Looks similar to what the Blade gene does with the Clown gene. Nice snake!
  • 02-23-2015, 06:24 PM
    Reinz
    Beautiful!
  • 02-24-2015, 06:04 AM
    beartg
    Thanks for the praises. Yes, she's a beautiful, reduced pattern girl and I like her like my other pets :). But the question still remains: Her belly is yellow, like a yellow bellys. Is that normal for a leopard, or she's more than a Leopard het. Pied (maybe there's a little yellow belly in her)?
  • 02-24-2015, 07:45 AM
    Slowcountry Balls
    There is a very warm, yellow/orange cast to all of your pictures. This warm cast is making it a little tough to see the yellow on the belly. There may be a couple of reasons for the warm cast. First, what kind of lights were the pictures taken under? If they are incandescent lights, or standard, home, compact fluorescent lights (CFL), they probably have a color temperature of 2700K, which gives the warm cast. Also, taking pictures on a nicely finished wood surface can reflect a lot of yellow/orange light.

    Do you think you could take some pictures on a white background under natural (sunlight) light or Daylight (5000k) balanced light bulbs? Another option would be to use a white balance card (like a WhiBal card) to correct the warm cast

    I will try to get pictures of the belly of my 2013 female Leopard tonight, after work, so you can compare.
  • 02-24-2015, 08:21 AM
    Felidae
    Re: Leopard het. Pied "Pic heavy"
    Little cutie :) You know the breeder, or the line? What I know Gekko reptiles is a shop, I'm not sure they bred too.
  • 02-24-2015, 10:07 AM
    beartg
  • 02-24-2015, 01:59 PM
    coldbloodaddict
    Re: Leopard het. Pied "Pic heavy"
    That's not a Leopard.
  • 02-24-2015, 02:04 PM
    Felidae
    Re: Leopard het. Pied "Pic heavy"
    (Külföldi árus a terraplázán... ;) ismerős a dolog..)

    Really looks more yellow than what we can see in some other leopards, but it can be related to the line too.
  • 02-24-2015, 03:01 PM
    beartg
    Re: Leopard het. Pied "Pic heavy"
    (Az eladó magyar volt, csak külföldről hozták a kígyót a papír szerint)
  • 02-24-2015, 03:28 PM
    C2tcardin
    It almost looks like it's burned in a few spots on the belly, or is this just perhaps the het Pied markings? It's definitely more reduced than any leopard I've seen before, like Chris said it almost looks more Leopard Blade than anything else.
  • 02-24-2015, 03:49 PM
    Slowcountry Balls
    Re: Leopard het. Pied "Pic heavy"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by coldbloodaddict View Post
    That's not a Leopard.

    Jon - What do you think she is? When I saw the first pictures, I thought it might be a Leopard Blade because it looked similar to some of the Leopard Clown combinations that Justin Kobylka has posted pictures and videos of. I know that Justin said that he has Blade in some of his Clowns, so I guessed that she might be a Leopard Clown.

    beartg - Your new pictures are much better. If I had to guess about the yellow on the belly near the tail, I would guess that is the het Pied making markings similar to a ringer. Look at how the markings occur where the "flames" are different from the others on her side.
  • 02-24-2015, 04:32 PM
    beartg
    Re: Leopard het. Pied "Pic heavy"
    I agree with you about the markings on the tail area. But all of her belly area has a yellow tint on it. That's what confuses me a little.
  • 02-24-2015, 04:49 PM
    Slowcountry Balls
    Re: Leopard het. Pied "Pic heavy"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by beartg View Post
    I agree with you about the markings on the tail area. But all of her belly area has a yellow tint on it. That's what confuses me a little.

    If she is not going into or coming out of a shed, then I don't know what the yellow tint might be.

    Honestly, Jon has a lot more experience, so he might be able to help more. I assumed that when you were told that she is a Leopard het Pied, that the seller knew the pairing that produced her and may have listed only the gene he/she was certain of. I have never seen a Leopard like yours, so I thought the reduction in pattern might be another gene, hence my guess at a Leopard Blade. You might just have to breed her to get better answers.
  • 02-24-2015, 08:29 PM
    ARBallMorphs
    My leopard girl also has a lot of yellow on her belly and i had the same question.

    I send a e-mail to J Kobylka and he said that there is a lot of variation in the amount of color on the belly with Leopards. and that some animals indeed have alot of yellow on their belly.

    That being said, looking at the animals pattern I also have my doubt if that is a Leopard
  • 02-25-2015, 12:06 AM
    Slowcountry Balls
  • 02-28-2015, 08:41 PM
    TessadasExotics
    That yellow on the belly at the end of the tail is because it is a Ringer. You can clearly see it in the side pattern.
    As to it being a leopard I am highly suspect of this being true. Looks like no Leopard I have ever seen. I would never buy a Leopard that looks like this.
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