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  • 02-21-2015, 07:26 PM
    Manglewantsmacaroni
    questions for mangle...
    hello there all,
    As you may or may not know, I adopted a sweet ball python on the 6th, fifteen days ago. She curls up around her cage a lot and has been moving around more. I keep her cage nice and warm, and humidity can be difficult to maintain somedays. A yesterday, I noticed her eyes are cloudy. Is this because of shedding?
    Also, how can I keep up moisture in her cage?
    And is she hungry?
    Thanks
  • 02-21-2015, 07:31 PM
    That_One_New_Guy
    Re: questions for mangle...
    If it's blue she is probably shedding, I'm a new BP owner as well I find that if you get eco earth bricks get it wet and put it in your tank and your humidity will raise you can also use tin foil . And the last question do you know when she ate last? If it's been a week or so I'd say she is hungry
  • 02-21-2015, 07:57 PM
    Nodnarb3do
    For humidity, can you show/describe the setup you have for her enclosure?

    As to feeding, it can vary by age but generally BPs eat every 7-14 days, so decent chance she is hungry if she hasn't eaten since being with you.
  • 02-21-2015, 08:08 PM
    Manglewantsmacaroni
    Re: questions for mangle...
    I estimate she is an adult, she's 4 feet about. Her eyes are a smoky grey color. I do not know when she was fed last. I tried to feed her on sunday with no luck. I have tin foil on the top with coconut substrate.
  • 02-21-2015, 08:19 PM
    Nodnarb3do
    I'd try again tomorrow then, try to keep a regular pattern. What's your process for feeding her?
  • 02-21-2015, 08:20 PM
    That_One_New_Guy
    Re: questions for mangle...
    I'd give her eyes like 24ish hours to clear up and if so she is probably shedding. Do you keep the coconut husk damp?
  • 02-21-2015, 08:21 PM
    Manglewantsmacaroni
    Re: questions for mangle...
    I would bring her to another cage for feeding, about 8 gallons big. I set up a water dripping system to give her moisture and simulate rainfall. So, if the eyes are a smokey grey/white, is she going to shed?
    Thanks
  • 02-21-2015, 08:31 PM
    That_One_New_Guy
    Re: questions for mangle...
    What I would do for your substrate is get the bricks of coconut husk and stick it in a bucket of water give it 30 minutes and put it in your tank. Also try and feed her in your cage. That's what I did she ate it in under 15 minutes after 3 weeks of not eating. Her eyes will get smokey then clear and then about 36 hours later she will shed
  • 02-21-2015, 08:53 PM
    MontyAndMelissa
    Re: questions for mangle...
    I use spaghnum Moss in her warm hide to keep up humidity. She loves it. I also use coconut shred bedding and it holds in humidity. If the top is screen, try covering it with foil and a DRY towel.
  • 02-21-2015, 09:21 PM
    Manglewantsmacaroni
    Re: questions for mangle...
    IS it safe to feed her at this time, before she sheds? Is that a good time?
    I have coconut subs. and Moss in as well. I am going to try to use a dripper.
    There is tin foil on top as well
  • 02-21-2015, 10:07 PM
    AnnaK231
    Re: questions for mangle...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Manglewantsmacaroni View Post
    IS it safe to feed her at this time, before she sheds? Is that a good time?
    I have coconut subs. and Moss in as well. I am going to try to use a dripper.
    There is tin foil on top as well


    I would say it depends on what you feed her. Frozen/thawed? Prekilled? Live? Just a reminder you never leave a live mouse with your snake unsupervised. Most snakes won't eat around their shed time. So I wouldn't say it's not safe but if she's going to shed soon she probably won't eat.

    Ive got a 55gallon glass tank, four Dixie cups of "soaked" sphagnum moss and two water dishes with one under the heat lamp and my humidity is about 50-60%. I easily bump it up to 65-70 with misting during shedding. Oh and tin foil on top with holes for air flow.

    If you can, upload a pic of your set up please. It helps a lot to see

    you can also make a humid hide for shedding days. Search in the search bar "humid hides".
  • 02-21-2015, 10:11 PM
    Manglewantsmacaroni
    Re: questions for mangle...
    ah. I feed her frozen thawed with tongs
  • 02-21-2015, 10:19 PM
    DVirginiana
    Many snakes won't eat before a shed, but many will (mine doesn't mind and will eat at any point during her shed cycle). Since you do f/t, you can just offer her food again a week after the last time you offered food.
  • 02-21-2015, 10:20 PM
    AnnaK231
    Re: questions for mangle...
    Gotcha. Yep, shouldn't be unsafe, she just may not eat. You can always offer if you have the $ for another rat or get them in bulk. Gray/cloudy eyes and dull color are indicators of a shed coming soon. Mine won't eat until he sheds, sometimes not until a week after.

    Try to keep the humidity a little higher until she sheds. What do you have to measure temps and humidity?
  • 02-21-2015, 11:01 PM
    Manglewantsmacaroni
    Re: questions for mangle...
    she eats mice. Here is her cage set up:

    http://sta.sh/01ufkf3aatb0
    http://sta.sh/01km8x7gru9n
  • 02-22-2015, 10:42 AM
    MarkS
    I personally would not use a drip system for humidity or cover the entire floor with damp coconut coir. You could run the chance of getting it too wet which could cause other problems. I think a better solution is to have a humid hide box which is filled with the damp coconut coir or sphagnum moss. That way your snake has a choice between dry and humid.
  • 02-22-2015, 12:09 PM
    Manglewantsmacaroni
    Re: questions for mangle...
    It clogged overnight anyway. I must just dump water on the coconut stuff. I really need to increase moisture. It is otherwise always around 35%
  • 02-22-2015, 03:58 PM
    AnnaK231
    Re: questions for mangle...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Manglewantsmacaroni View Post
    It clogged overnight anyway. I must just dump water on the coconut stuff. I really need to increase moisture. It is otherwise always around 35%


    Sorry if this is a repeat question, can't find the answer in your post. What are you using to measure humidity and temps? Do you have a UTH on a thermostat?
  • 02-22-2015, 05:03 PM
    se7en
    left field, but the name mangle is awesome
  • 02-22-2015, 09:39 PM
    Manglewantsmacaroni
    Re: questions for mangle...
    I am using a digital and analog thermometer on both sides. She has a top heater and an under heater
  • 02-22-2015, 09:50 PM
    Stormy
    Re: questions for mangle...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Manglewantsmacaroni View Post
    I am using a digital and analog thermometer on both sides. She has a top heater and an under heater


    Do you have a thermoSTAT to control your temps?
  • 02-22-2015, 09:52 PM
    Manglewantsmacaroni
    Re: questions for mangle...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Stormy View Post
    Do you have a thermoSTAT to control your temps?

    yes. I have one to control the temps.
  • 02-22-2015, 09:58 PM
    Stormy
    Re: questions for mangle...
    Thought I'd ask since you didn't mention one.

    Our snakes will will eat if they're going into shed sometimes; sometimes they won't. Our big female usually won't until she's done shedding and leaves us a nice little stinky present; then look out because she's on the hunt for a rat.

    Our pied has only shed once since we've had him; he refused food until afterwards.

    We Just got a black satin black pastel so we'll have to wait and see what he does.
  • 02-22-2015, 10:06 PM
    Manglewantsmacaroni
    Re: questions for mangle...
    I got her about 16 days ago. I have no idea when she last ate.
    I must ask also, should I try to offer her live?
    thanks
  • 02-22-2015, 10:39 PM
    DVirginiana
    Do you know or is there any way you can contact the person who had her previously to find out what she was eating before you got her (f/t, live, pre-killed)? Often the food they take best is what they're used to.
    There is no reason not to try live if that's what is most convenient for you, however I wouldn't try it just to get the snake eating after only two weeks. Also definitely wouldn't try live till she's shed otherwise there's a good chance you'll end up with a pet mouse for the week.
  • 02-22-2015, 10:59 PM
    Manglewantsmacaroni
    Re: questions for mangle...
    there is no way to contact her previous owner since she was abandoned.
    She didn't take much interest in the prekilled. I have a spare cage, which I can keep a mouse in.
    I tried to feed her about a week ago with no luck.
    Her eyes are still a bit cloudy.
    She hasn't eaten with her new daddy (me) yet.
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