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  • 02-10-2015, 04:50 AM
    Zincubus
    Best size ceramic for 66" x 24" x 24"
    Best size ceramic for 66" x 24" x 24" to provide ideal heat gradient for adult Boa .
    Thanks
  • 02-10-2015, 05:00 AM
    KMG
    There will be variables in figuring this out. You may get better results with a radiant heat panel but the cage material, room temp, and desired temps are going to come into play with whatever you get.

    I don't see you heating a cage that large with just one che. Your best option would be to have a hotspot created by a uth, che, rhp, etc and then keep the ambient temps good by heating the room with a heater. I use a oil heater in my snake room and then have a hotspot in each cage. It works great and requires less equipment than heating each cage with their own devices.
  • 02-10-2015, 07:04 AM
    Zincubus
    Re: Best size ceramic for 66" x 24" x 24"
    It's a wooden VivExotic viv but its currently heated with two identical 18" x12" heat mats running on one stat . Currently set at 90F but I've read many times that they aren't suitable for a 7' adult Boa so I'm considering going the ceramic route for the warm end 90F and maybe setting the heat mats down to 80F for the cooler end .
  • 02-10-2015, 07:05 AM
    Zincubus
    Re: Best size ceramic for 66" x 24" x 24"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KMG View Post
    There will be variables in figuring this out. You may get better results with a radiant heat panel but the cage material, room temp, and desired temps are going to come into play with whatever you get.

    I don't see you heating a cage that large with just one che. Your best option would be to have a hotspot created by a uth, che, rhp, etc and then keep the ambient temps good by heating the room with a heater. I use a oil heater in my snake room and then have a hotspot in each cage. It works great and requires less equipment than heating each cage with their own devices.

    How are you getting your warm end temps ?
  • 02-10-2015, 10:34 AM
    KMG
    Re: Best size ceramic for 66" x 24" x 24"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    How are you getting your warm end temps ?

    All my cages have a UTH for the hotspot. The rest of the cage stays in the range of 77-81 throughout the day by way of the oil heater.

    I like to offer a hotspot and a cool end but many here only warm the air in the room and do not bother with a hotspot. A gradient while good is not absolutely necessary in every situation. As long as I have a good hotspot and the ambient temps are within range Im happy and so is my collection.
  • 02-10-2015, 11:31 AM
    Zincubus
    Re: Best size ceramic for 66" x 24" x 24"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KMG View Post
    All my cages have a UTH for the hotspot. The rest of the cage stays in the range of 77-81 throughout the day by way of the oil heater.

    I like to offer a hotspot and a cool end but many here only warm the air in the room and do not bother with a hotspot. A gradient while good is not absolutely necessary in every situation. As long as I have a good hotspot and the ambient temps are within range Im happy and so is my collection.


    UTH is presumably under tank heater / heat mat ??
    I've got two of those already ( on a stat ) but I keep reading that they're no use for heavy bodied snakes so that's why I'm looking at going down this ceramic route .
  • 02-10-2015, 12:24 PM
    KMG
    Yes, under tank heater. Yours being wood only a few kinds of uth can/should be used.

    I have PVC cages that house my 30lb 5.5ft Blood and my 6ft BRB. Both have a uth mounted to the outside bottom of their cage and they work fine. Bloods are extremely heavy bodied and mine has no issues with a uth.
  • 02-10-2015, 12:56 PM
    Zincubus
    Re: Best size ceramic for 66" x 24" x 24"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KMG View Post
    Yes, under tank heater. Yours being wood only a few kinds of uth can/should be used.

    I have PVC cages that house my 30lb 5.5ft Blood and my 6ft BRB. Both have a uth mounted to the outside bottom of their cage and they work fine. Bloods are extremely heavy bodied and mine has no issues with a uth.

    Thank you !
  • 02-16-2015, 10:33 AM
    Zincubus
    Re: Best size ceramic for 66" x 24" x 24"
    Just thinking ....If I'm replacing two 21W heat mats with a new 250W ceramic on a pulse thermostat am I going to see a massive increase in our electric bills ?
  • 02-16-2015, 10:40 AM
    KMG
    I doubt massive increases but maybe alittle. It will really depends on how hard and long the rhp has to work to keep your temps and therefore burn electricity. Being you have wood cages that are probably pretty insulated I doubt they will be pumping that much heat.

    That of course is just a guess.
  • 02-16-2015, 11:05 AM
    Zincubus
    Re: Best size ceramic for 66" x 24" x 24"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KMG View Post
    I doubt massive increases but maybe alittle. It will really depends on how hard and long the rhp has to work to keep your temps and therefore burn electricity. Being you have wood cages that are probably pretty insulated I doubt they will be pumping that much heat.

    That of course is just a guess.

    So a ceramic is known as a RHP in the states ??
  • 02-16-2015, 11:06 AM
    Zincubus
    Re: Best size ceramic for 66" x 24" x 24"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KMG View Post
    I doubt massive increases but maybe alittle. It will really depends on how hard and long the rhp has to work to keep your temps and therefore burn electricity. Being you have wood cages that are probably pretty insulated I doubt they will be pumping that much heat.

    That of course is just a guess.

    So over there you call ceramics ....RHPs ??
  • 02-16-2015, 11:06 AM
    Zincubus
    Re: Best size ceramic for 66" x 24" x 24"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KMG View Post
    I doubt massive increases but maybe alittle. It will really depends on how hard and long the rhp has to work to keep your temps and therefore burn electricity. Being you have wood cages that are probably pretty insulated I doubt they will be pumping that much heat.

    That of course is just a guess.

    So am I to understand that over there you call ceramics ....RHPs ??
  • 02-16-2015, 11:07 AM
    Zincubus
    Re: Best size ceramic for 66" x 24" x 24"
    So am I to understand that over there you call ceramics ....RHPs ??
  • 02-16-2015, 11:49 AM
    Zincubus
    Re: Best size ceramic for 66" x 24" x 24"
    Crazy thing is I've just phoned another reptile place ( supposedly highly rated ) and they weren't sure if they had any guards big enough to house a 250W ceramic bulb !? The others around don't even sell guards at all just the ceramic nubs !!

    How on earth do you guys ever get ceramics set up in the first place ??

    The prices are far better on eBay but there's no way of knowing if the guards are gonna fit the bulbs .... I found a place on eBay that sells various sized ceramic guards at £20 each BUT they don't sell ceramic bulbs !!!!


    Agghhhh !!!!

    This is why I advertised for a ready made ceramic setup in classifieds :)
  • 02-16-2015, 03:15 PM
    KMG
    I'm sorry since you have wood enclosures I thought you were talking about radiant heat panels(rhp) not a che. I would not recommend a che as they really cook and will destroy your humidity. I would check into a radiant heat panel. They are safer and work very well in wood enclosures from what I have seen.
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