Warning world of ball pythons .com has been hacked.

I just tried to visit it and got this;

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...Phacked_cr.jpg

I'm quite new to the python world, but I'm surprised that this kind of stuff hasn't been brought up in all of my searching before. Maybe I'm just searching the wrong places, but this is honestly the first time I've seen something stating this kind of thing. Obviously we want breeding conditions to be ideal for the animal but that's a lot different than what they're getting at.

Huh, the Ball Pythons hobby? Not the puppy mills or fur trade? huh...

How strange that they would take that approach to ball pythons and target a website mostly devoted to displaying genetics. It seems that "activism" like this would be better pointed elsewhere, like at puppy mills or certain livestock raising techniques. Even using terms like "genetic manipulation" is a little extreme in this case, but then I guess judging by their methods this person/group is extremist already.

Waste of effort, if you ask me.

Wow crazy!

The animal rights movement has even more misconceptions about the reptile hobby and exotics than they do about most other animal-related issues. I was vegan for several years (dietary, not ethical... hard to be an ethical vegan with a freezer full of dead mice) and ended up seeing a lot of the propaganda and such.

Fantastic. You can hack a website that has a genetics calculator on it. I'm rather sad that they didn't put a favicon up.

I would caution that those breeders who maintain websites make sure their security is up to snuff, because wackos like this will be likely to hit them next. They'll probably hit big names first for the publicity, but better be safe and back up your content if it isn't already.

I don't think that they will go for any more, I'd be surprised if they are willing to waste their time. But yeah, if they're going to target anyone else they are likely to go for the big names. Possibly BHB Reptiles.

Quick note, the site is back.

I've seen some animal rights propaganda relating to the ball python industry in the past. Claims that we torture our animals by keeping them in plastic drawers and using them to breed year after year in hopes of producing babies for profit....and such nonsense. I've had an animal rights activist look totally aghast and berate me for torturing my animals by keeping them in a rack...despite the fact that it more closely mirrors their natural daily hideout choices and undoubtedly increases the strength of their feeding responses. I have much fewer refusals from animals in a rack than in a "naturalistic tank". Although, most of those people think all animals (including domestic pets) should be set free into the wild where they "belong", even knowing they will die within months because they lack instinctual responses that could save their lives. It's totally ridiculous.

I don't think the hackers really understand what we do, while I understand the them looking like objects in a list to the outsider, breeding conditions obviously have to be appropriate or we couldn't make anything on that list and there is no genetic manipulation, it is all selective breeding. Almost wish you could respond to the hackers lol.

I seriously doubt that they have an actual AR agenda, I suspect that it's more of an excuse to justify their vandalism of a website. Like a bunch of mean little kids wrecking someone else's fun just because they can. They're more bully than activist.

It's probably someone who doesn't think people should breed the spider morph lol. :salute:!

There are some people who hate the very idea of all morphs.

I fell in love with a normal ball python years and years before I ever thought about owning a morph. :oops:

Can't abide people who think they have the right to tell others what they can and cannot do with their own animals though.

That was so much irony my shirts are done for the week.

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

I don't think the hackers really understand what we do, while I understand the them looking like objects in a list to the outsider, breeding conditions obviously have to be appropriate or we couldn't make anything on that list and there is no genetic manipulation, it is all selective breeding. Almost wish you could respond to the hackers lol.

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Honestly, I wouldn't advise it. They would probably realize that they've managed to annoy a few people and it could encourage them to strike again. If they don't get a huge response, they probably won't bother again because they aren't really anything serious. WOBP didn't seem to lose any data and the hackers probably didn't steal tables for account passwords. It was just a little website defacement that sat in front of the real website. If you really want to e-mail them still, M@06@Deatheaters.com is the address they left. :P

Just remove the first @ symbol, that's just there to prevent any accidental clicks.

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Originally Posted by Ransack

Huh, the Ball Pythons hobby? Not the puppy mills or fur trade? huh...

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They should be targeting the puppy mill industry with dogs who are locked up in 1x1 cages to breed or until their sold. That is not natural. For snakes who spend 99% of their time in termite mounds a rack is the most natural habitat. PETA states ball pythons are taken from the wild while almost all of the ball pythons sold are captive bred. Their are many reptiles and other pets taken from the wild that these activists should worry about.

The only thing I dis agree with is that Ball pythons are objects. By definition they are an object :D second we don't manipulate their genetics nature does we just reproduce the natural occurrence in captive enviroments

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

I don't think the hackers really understand what we do, while I understand the them looking like objects in a list to the outsider, breeding conditions obviously have to be appropriate or we couldn't make anything on that list and there is no genetic manipulation, it is all selective breeding. Almost wish you could respond to the hackers lol.

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those hackers' parents should have engaged in more selective breeding

Dont lump them all together some do stupid things from time to time but as a general group a lot of what they are doing is positive..well negative things to attempt to shine a light on other negative things (aka all the pedo cracking/tracking stuff)

Alright, so I followed the trail they left and ended up at this site :http://www.hack-mirror.com/

while I don't see their specific hack, it is a site where it looks like people get points based on how many websites they deface. So looks like someone who really couldn't give a crap about our hobby and just wanted some points for this website. Side note some of the other website defacements are kinda funny. The one playing taylor swift's trouble fit very well.

Yeah from what I understand, my fiancee's company faced something similar and its not actually a hack in the regards of information being released or anything happening with the database or anything but just in his words "Changing the index to point at their stupid deface page". When my fiancee's company got "hacked' their database was left untouched and being a business I imagine if it was something actually meant to get that kind of info they would have got it since there would be a lot of personal information to be had.

I think its just retarded . Who on earth would wanna hack a website devoted to these beautiful creatures knows as ball pythons :/

I'm so glad they opened my eyes

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Originally Posted by WarriorPrincess90

I've seen some animal rights propaganda relating to the ball python industry in the past. Claims that we torture our animals by keeping them in plastic drawers and using them to breed year after year in hopes of producing babies for profit....and such nonsense. I've had an animal rights activist look totally aghast and berate me for torturing my animals by keeping them in a rack...despite the fact that it more closely mirrors their natural daily hideout choices and undoubtedly increases the strength of their feeding responses. I have much fewer refusals from animals in a rack than in a "naturalistic tank". Although, most of those people think all animals (including domestic pets) should be set free into the wild where they "belong", even knowing they will die within months because they lack instinctual responses that could save their lives. It's totally ridiculous.

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Can you imagine if everybody all let there pets go! That would be the most amazing week ever, living near a zoo I have hoped to see a zebra grazing in my yard. Amagin all of our animals roaming the streets :)

With such a strong message to spew you would think a Google search could at least find ANYTHING about this group but some how Google was unable to find any mention also not Facebook youtube Instagram or any social media. Seems these hackers probly got a email through with an attachment. something they found online