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  • 01-30-2015, 05:38 PM
    ENA Reptiles
    Do these guys look big enough to breed?
    The lesser is producing sperm plugs and when I bought him they told me he weighed 410g. And I have 2 normal females and I'm not sure if they are big enough to breed. I'm getting a scale in a few days so I'll know their weights but I just wanted an idea from you guys, if you guys think they look big enough. I have another male that's up to size so I'm more curious about the normal females.http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...3f7081438f.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...c2ce653d24.jpg
  • 01-30-2015, 06:03 PM
    h00blah
    Uhhh, it's not possible to tell without knowing weights and ages :gj:.

    The male at 400 grams could be ready to go if he's producing sperm plugs and is eating well. Have someone pop him if you don't know how, and see if he's got sperm plugs.

    Rule of thumb for females is 1500+ grams in weight, and 2 years of age.
  • 01-31-2015, 10:31 AM
    AjBalls
    Best way to get the females ready is to just fatten them up!

    Hard to tell the females size, what size tub are you using?
  • 02-01-2015, 05:22 PM
    ENA Reptiles
    Re: Do these guys look big enough to breed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AjBalls View Post
    Best way to get the females ready is to just fatten them up!

    Hard to tell the females size, what size tub are you using?

    40qt sterilite ultra.
  • 02-01-2015, 10:31 PM
    Tigerhawk
    Yes it's hard to tell just looking at the pictures. When you get your scale it will answer a lot of questions for you.
  • 02-02-2015, 12:29 AM
    ENA Reptiles
    Re: Do these guys look big enough to breed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tigerhawk View Post
    Yes it's hard to tell just looking at the pictures. When you get your scale it will answer a lot of questions for you.

    I think they are lol because i threw my desert male in and they locked up! I'm actually pretty excited.
  • 02-02-2015, 01:51 AM
    Mr. Misha
    Re: Do these guys look big enough to breed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Edd_138 View Post
    I think they are lol because i threw my desert male in and they locked up! I'm actually pretty excited.

    You should seriously get a scale like someone already suggested and weigh them. You shouldn't be just throwing snakes together to breed just because they look up to breeding size. :confusd::confusd::confusd:
  • 02-02-2015, 02:38 AM
    ENA Reptiles
    Re: Do these guys look big enough to breed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr. Misha View Post
    You should seriously get a scale like someone already suggested and weigh them. You shouldn't be just throwing snakes together to breed just because they look up to breeding size. :confusd::confusd::confusd:

    Well wouldnt the female only be receptive if she's is ready? I was under the impression that the females will breed at least at 1200g any smaller they just won't do it. Plus the guy I bought her from said she was an adult.
  • 02-02-2015, 02:43 AM
    srp1102
    Re: Do these guys look big enough to breed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Edd_138 View Post
    Well wouldnt the female only be receptive if she's is ready? I was under the impression that the females will breed at least at 1200g any smaller they just won't do it. Plus the guy I bought her from said she was an adult.

    Just because they can breed doesn't mean they should breed. If I were you I would wait to get a scale and see what your females weight is. Their health is the most important thing, and if she's under weight then breeding her could cause some serious health issues.
  • 02-02-2015, 04:18 AM
    kylearmbar
    Re: Do these guys look big enough to breed?
    Even if they are 1500 grams i would not breed these animals yet. Condition is just as important, if not more so than weight or age. Their backs looked peaked, suggesting they are underweight. Ball pythons should look round and smooth if they are healthy.
  • 02-02-2015, 10:59 AM
    ENA Reptiles
    Re: Do these guys look big enough to breed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kylearmbar View Post
    Even if they are 1500 grams i would not breed these animals yet. Condition is just as important, if not more so than weight or age. Their backs looked peaked, suggesting they are underweight. Ball pythons should look round and smooth if they are healthy.

    The scale comes in today, so I will see their weights. I was always under the impression that they only breed if they are in good health conditions. But, I will definitely check their weights today and if they are underweight then I will just wait until next season.
  • 02-02-2015, 11:59 AM
    Daigga
    Re: Do these guys look big enough to breed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Edd_138 View Post
    The scale comes in today, so I will see their weights. I was always under the impression that they only breed if they are in good health conditions. But, I will definitely check their weights today and if they are underweight then I will just wait until next season.

    Just because they can breed doesn't mean they should. Using a mammalian example; female dogs will go into heat at 5 or 6 months of age, but breeding them when they're this young will cause a lot of stress and problems for the mom, because she's still a puppy herself at that age. A little patience can go a long way as far as insuring the overall health of your animals.
  • 02-02-2015, 02:40 PM
    Mr. Misha
    Re: Do these guys look big enough to breed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Edd_138 View Post
    The scale comes in today, so I will see their weights. I was always under the impression that they only breed if they are in good health conditions. But, I will definitely check their weights today and if they are underweight then I will just wait until next season.

    That's perfect. Weigh each snake and then let us know the wights. You were just misinformed about breeding BPs. With Ball Pythons, they're not only supposed to reach adulthood which they do in about two years, but both females and males should to weigh a certain amount for their own health and to produce viable clutches.

    I saw on another thread that you said were 15. I think it's great that you're so interested in snakes and thinking about breeding. With that being said, you should take in consideration that breeding Ball Pythons can be very expensive. You'll have to get an incubator to hatch the eggs (which is not the expensive part). After you hatch the eggs, you'll have additional mouths to feed every week as well as house an unforseen amount of BPs.

    My suggestion to you is to do as much research as possible on breeding (this forum and past threads are very educational) and if you're still interested in doing so, you can make small steps in making it happen.
  • 02-02-2015, 03:46 PM
    ENA Reptiles
    Re: Do these guys look big enough to breed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr. Misha View Post
    That's perfect. Weigh each snake and then let us know the wights. You were just misinformed about breeding BPs. With Ball Pythons, they're not only supposed to reach adulthood which they do in about two years, but both females and males should to weigh a certain amount for their own health and to produce viable clutches.

    I saw on another thread that you said were 15. I think it's great that you're so interested in snakes and thinking about breeding. With that being said, you should take in consideration that breeding Ball Pythons can be very expensive. You'll have to get an incubator to hatch the eggs (which is not the expensive part). After you hatch the eggs, you'll have additional mouths to feed every week as well as house an unforseen amount of BPs.

    My suggestion to you is to do as much research as possible on breeding (this forum and past threads are very educational) and if you're still interested in doing so, you can make small steps in making it happen.

    I actually have 9 bps at the moment. I sell chips at school lol. And I make at least $40 a day. Money so much isn't an issue. And I am positive I want to breed them. Thank you for the reply. I will keep you guys updated. As soon as I get home from school I'm going to be weighing my bps.
  • 02-02-2015, 05:24 PM
    CD CONSTRICTORS
    The weight and age are just a part of the equation. Do you have a history on the animals?

    What could be more relevant than anything else is if they laid a clutch last season at 2000g and never put on any weight. 1500g may be fine for a virgin, but not a female who was 2000g before she laid eggs last year.
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