have you ever shipped snake(s) without heat pack in cold weather?

I`m out of heat packs now and buyer wants me to ship the snake by tomorrow.
Night Temp of detination is 41f. and my area is 27F. Well daytime temp of my area is above 52F and the temp. of destination is 68F. I`m going to drop off the snake to fedex shipping center around 7pm. However, I still have enough time to cancel the shipping and wait for better time to ship or just issue refund to seller. Do you guys think it`s insane to ship snake without heat pack in this temperature?

I would not do it. Overnight temps are going to drop, you just don't know by how much, you also don't know if there are going to be problems shipping that could delay delivery, (over 2000 flights around the east coast are being canceled or delayed due to weather, that's GOT to affect flights around the rest of the country too) If the buyer insists then refund his money. The health of the snake should come first.

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Originally Posted by dek593

Do you guys think it`s insane to ship snake without heat pack in this temperature?

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Yes.

Definitely do not ship with out a heat pack...I would not even ship today or tomorrow with a heat pack...Like Mark mentioned the weather is getting pretty bad in certain areas.

Yes it's insane to even consider it.

When shipping you need to take the temperature in consideration on 3 locations

Origin (usual the snake will be there until 11pm or so)

Main hub (Memphis or Indianapolis or Fort Worth etc) where the snake can be there between 12am to 5am

And origin (anywhere between 7 am to 10.30 am or more depending on when the animal is delivered)


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Originally Posted by Deborah

...Main hub (Memphis or Indianapolis or Fort Worth etc) where the snake can be there between 12am to 5am...

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Is there a place/site to determine this location definitively based upon origin and destination? If not, how do you recommend doing so?

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Originally Posted by Eric Alan

Is there a place/site to determine this location definitively based upon origin and destination? If not, how do you recommend doing so?

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There is none also depending on where you live and where the package is going it will narrow down the possibilities but you will not know which hub your box will fly into until your label is printed

When you label is printed here are the code that tell you which hub will be used

A Fort Worth TX

W Oakland CA

N Indianapolis IN

X Memphis TN

Q Los Angeles CA

Numbers In state


I live in GA and based on shipping over the last 7 years I will say that 90 percent of my packages go through memphis and indianapolis, a few have went into Fort Worth, therefore Memphis and Indianapolis are really the ones I pay extremely close attention to.

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Originally Posted by Eric Alan

Is there a place/site to determine this location definitively based upon origin and destination? If not, how do you recommend doing so?

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Unfortunately no, I've had stuff from CA come in to me through both Lexington, KY and Chicago, IL based on FedEx's workload that day.

Also the NE is getting hammered by a blizzard today through tomorrow which will have a nationwide ripple effect on shipping.

I think a large number of the packages I've gotten come through Atlanta even when it takes a longer route to get here.

Here is my constructive, helpful input:

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...d-facepalm.jpg

if the buyer is pushing for the snake that fast, and has the knowledge of how cold the weather is, they probably shouldn't be allowed to own reptiles

What about in the airplane itself? Are the animals actually kept in a heated area on the plane?

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Originally Posted by Cowtipper

What about in the airplane itself? Are the animals actually kept in a heated area on the plane?

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No Cowtipper, they are not kept in a heated area on the plane. It is climate controlled to avoid significant temperature drops at high altitude, but not to the degree that the main cabin is. At least, that is my understanding.

However, the problem does not arise on the plane specifically, but rather, in transporting the animal from the plane into the hub, which may or may not be climate controlled, and even if it is, it will still be extremely cold. The animal will then sit in the hub for several hours, which could be quite cold, before being taken back out onto the runway for loading onto the next plane. At all of these points, it would be much to cold for the snake.


To the OP, I would definitely wait to ship until after the blizzard passes in the north. Even if your animal isn't going there, it is going to cause all sorts of problems with travel until it passes. It will hold up planes that should have been in other areas, which will in turn cause delays everywhere. I would point this out to your buyer, and tell him that you will ship when it is deemed safe to do so for the sake of the animal. If he cares at all about his investment, or the safety of the animal, he will understand.

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Originally Posted by se7en

if the buyer is pushing for the snake that fast, and has the knowledge of how cold the weather is, they probably shouldn't be allowed to own reptiles

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Have to agree with this!!! The animal should ALWAYS be put first. And I have to add, it's going to be your reputation on the line when it arrives dead and the buyer suddenly turns on YOU for shipping in such conditions. Do the responsible thing and refuse to ship until weather improves and you have the proper shipping supplies. If you lose the sale then the buyer will prove his true colors and at least your animal is alive and safe.