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Enclosure size too small?

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  • 01-15-2015, 08:41 PM
    Killerherts
    Enclosure size too small?
    So my adult male super pastel ball python kept breaking out of our screen top cage. So I traveled down to our pet supply store and asked what they recommended for an adult ball python and i told him the size of our snake, he ended up selling me a zoo med terrarium they we have him set up in now but I'm wondering if its truly big enough for him the dimensions on the tank are 24"x18"x12" making it a twenty gallon tank I believe. i have had him in this tank for couple of weeks now and I'm wondering if this is big enough for the guy I haven't really seen any signs of stress from him. But I was hoping on the community's opinion on the matter.

    Sorry if this question has been asked before i searched and really couldn't come up with any straightforward answer to the question.

    Thanks in advance
  • 01-15-2015, 08:43 PM
    SRMD
    Re: Enclosure size too small?
    I keep my adult BP in a 3ft viv

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  • 01-15-2015, 08:59 PM
    Killerherts
    Re: Enclosure size too small?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SRMD94 View Post
    I keep my adult BP in a 3ft viv

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    would u say my enclosure is to small?
  • 01-15-2015, 09:18 PM
    se7en
    a 40 gallon terrarium is ideally the minimum size for an adult BP
  • 01-15-2015, 09:36 PM
    Mr. Misha
    I think the question that is not being asked is how big is your BP? How much does he weigh? There could be a big difference in size in male adults.
  • 01-15-2015, 09:48 PM
    Killerherts
    Re: Enclosure size too small?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr. Misha View Post
    I think the question that is not being asked is how big is your BP? How much does he weigh? There could be a big difference in size in male adults.


    just took him off the scale i have honestly never weighed him since he was a baby and man getting length was hard dude is strong
    3ft 4inches 1153grams

    im getting the feeling this guy sold me too small of a cage
  • 01-15-2015, 09:48 PM
    Orion
    I would go bigger....at least a 40 gallon. I prefer racks though.
  • 01-15-2015, 10:05 PM
    Lizardlicks
    Re: Enclosure size too small?
    lol Oh yeah, def need a 40 gal for that guy.
  • 01-15-2015, 10:07 PM
    Killerherts
    Re: Enclosure size too small?
    i have a tank the 32"x13"x13" he just kept breaking out of the screen top i had small holes to run my temp and humidity gauge through but he pushed them open from like a 1/8th of a inch opening to a 4 inch wide hole. I would like to avoid a rack system just due to the fact it nice to have him on display in the side room. any suggestions on how to run cables into this type of cage because it looks like he's going back to his old one
  • 01-15-2015, 10:23 PM
    MikeSilver
    I'll +1 everyone else on the 40B. I keep mine in one, and while he's small I have it partitioned so he can grow into it. 40B is 36x18x16.
  • 01-15-2015, 11:11 PM
    CloudtheBoa
    I personally prefer offering a minimum of Length+Width=the snake's length, so your tank works as a minimum, but you may want to go bigger if you wish. (Personally, an 18" width is a bit too thin for my tastes.)
  • 01-16-2015, 04:02 PM
    Mr. Misha
    I'd suggest looking into PVC enclosures like Animal Plastics for example if you you're going to be upgrading to a bigger enclosure.
  • 01-17-2015, 08:32 AM
    Killerherts
    I got him into a 40 gal today it was alot of work I have 100 inferred bulb and a 75 watt ceramic and I can only get my Temps up to 85 with ambient tempiture od about 70 to 75 in the room he had under belletly heat ass well I wanna get rir of My 100 watt inferred bulk it drive me nrs and ceramic last longer should go higher watage with my ceramic to get rid of the 100 watt and go for higher want ceramic he's running about 84 95 hut his nights Dont ever turn ott it's the zoomed 40 gal in that helps
  • 01-17-2015, 08:36 AM
    SRMD
    Enclosure size too small?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Killerherts View Post
    I got him into a 40 gal today it was alot of work I have 100 inferred bulb and a 75 watt ceramic and I can only get my Temps up to 85 with ambient tempiture od about 70 to 75 in the room he had under belletly heat ass well I wanna get rir of My 100 watt inferred bulk it drive me nrs and ceramic last longer should go higher watage with my ceramic to get rid of the 100 watt and go for higher want ceramic he's running about 84 95 hut his nights Dont ever turn ott it's the zoomed 40 gal in that helps

    If you have only just installed it all? give it some time to heat up properly and start working.
    I've just switched my BP from belly heat to a CHE I left it all running for about 4 days to make sure everything was solid before moving my BP in.


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  • 01-17-2015, 01:30 PM
    Killerherts
    Re: Enclosure size too small?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SRMD94 View Post
    If you have only just installed it all? give it some time to heat up properly and start working.
    I've just switched my BP from belly heat to a CHE I left it all running for about 4 days to make sure everything was solid before moving my BP in.


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    I have had it set up from about 24 hours it just can't get to 90 on the hot side I do have a small heating pad under where his belly would be but it's till topping out at about 83 degrees and I know my guy likes 90 so I have a 60 watt ceramic and a 100 inferred I'm going to go with 2 100 ceramic light cuz im frankly tires of see the red like light up my whole freaking house. Whish I had time to order them in I know that pet store will rape me over the coals on this
  • 01-17-2015, 01:31 PM
    SRMD
    Re: Enclosure size too small?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Killerherts View Post
    I have had it set up from about 24 hours it just can't get to 90 on the hot side I do have a small heating pad under where his belly would be but it's till topping out at about 83 degrees and I know my guy likes 90 so I have a 60 watt ceramic and a 100 inferred I'm going to go with 2 100 ceramic light cuz im frankly tires of see the red like light up my whole freaking house. Whish I had time to order them in I know that pet store will rape me over the coals on this

    Where do you have the thermometer probe?


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  • 01-17-2015, 04:25 PM
    xXBASSXx777
    Re: Enclosure size too small?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by se7en View Post
    a 40 gallon terrarium is ideally the minimum size for an adult BP

    I completely disagree, gallons does not matter is floor space. and youre size is not large enough for a adult but a juvenile will be fine for a while provided you take it out every few days.
  • 03-06-2015, 01:02 AM
    Killerherts
    Re: Enclosure size too small?
    Just to update I think he is happier now in his 40g tank but I think he is just winter fasting my warm side is 85 with undroad heater and 2 over head to get basking spot anybody know of a way to get him eating again he lost about 59 grams
  • 03-06-2015, 01:10 AM
    Killerherts
    Re: Enclosure size too small?
    Just to update I think he is double post
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