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Help with humidity!

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  • 12-19-2014, 10:58 PM
    Prometheus34562
    Help with humidity!
    Just bought my first bp today, a beautiful cinnabee! so far she's acting well, she's in her hide and went on exploring earlier but now shes in there again. But I have a problem with keeping the humidity up so far. It keeps lowering to 40% and I know I need at least 55-60%. I have an exo terra tank and I've tried covering most of the top with damp cloth, spraying the tank, putting water ball on warm side, and yeah the humidity goes up that moment but never stays up.

    Should I be worried with 40%? I do not want to spray too much as I'll just make everything too wet and probably mold but I also dont want my new friend to die overnight from bad humidity conditions! (if that could happen).

    The top is mostly mesh and I've done a bit of research and some people say cover it with plexiglass, that's kinda not an option for me right now sadly :(, But some people also proposed covering most of it with tinfoil , would this work ? is it even worth a try? some even say tight wrapping?

    Other things I would like to try is putting in a moss ball in there but its already night time and pet stores will close or are probably closed, I dont have that option tonight.

    Any emergency ideas please? Dont want my snake to die! thanks in advance.
  • 12-19-2014, 11:11 PM
    albinos_rule
    Your snake won't die overnight from low humidity. Personally the only time I ever worry about humidity is when I have one that is going to shed, then I mist the cage two or three times per day. Have never had any problems :gj:
  • 12-19-2014, 11:16 PM
    Prometheus34562
    Thanks for the reply, that calms me down a bit lol. Been pulling my hair out allnight trying to figure this out!
    You think my suggested methods would work though? tinfoil and moss ball combination?

    Its steady 40% right now but I'm almost certain it could drop even lower through the night since I live in a very dry province in Canada!
  • 12-19-2014, 11:37 PM
    Prometheus34562
    its just dropped to 35! ahhh!!
  • 12-20-2014, 12:15 AM
    KMG
    Relax, take a breath.

    Yes foil or foil tape on the screen is a very common practice. A number of other materials can be used as well.

    A word of caution about placing damp towels on the screen. If its a metal screen the wet towel will cause it to start rusting.

    As for a emergency fix its not really needed. One night is a drop in the bucket as humidity is something that needs to be sustained to have a seen effect be it bad or good and one night is not going to cause that. Not in this situation.

    Now there is a very easy fix. I use a 40gal glass tank with a foil tape covered lid for my BP. Why? Because I like the way it looks. Is it easy? Maybe not as easy as a pvc cage but I find it easy enough. In my tank the humidity stays in the 30s so to fix this issue I place damp moss in both hides. This creates a micro climate inside the hides and since that's where your snake will remain most of the time it will directly benefit from it. It does not matter that the outside humidity is low as long as you are providing the moss.

    During a shed I keep the moss damp throughout the process but during regular periods I make the moss damp and then allow it to dry before making it damp again. This mixed with a daily mist should keep your snake happy and give you perfect sheds.

    Cypress mulch is also a great substrate for low humidity cages and misting, even heavy misting is unlikely to cause mold as long as you have proper air flow. This is created by leaving an area of the lid open be if for a heat lamp or just for air flow. Just avoid covering the entire lid.

    Also being new here start to use the search feature and you will find most if not all of your questions can be answered without having to wait on use to chime in.
  • 12-20-2014, 11:13 AM
    Prometheus34562
    Thanks for the reply, I just tried the tin foil solution earlier and its working great actually!, the humidity even stabilized at a very high percentage that I had to air it out for a bit to keep 55-60, good stuff there. If however it lowers again if my province gets any dryer I will pick up some moss balls to throw in there and perhaps an actual humidifier for the whole room in general.

    Anyway's problem solved for now. Thanks again for replies!
  • 12-20-2014, 11:29 AM
    Prometheus34562
    Okay now I just have to figure out how much of the top to leave open because now its so humid her hide is condensating!
  • 12-20-2014, 12:56 PM
    blue roses
    I have the same problem , but i only cover 50% of the screen top and use a humid hide, which my guy hates , he won't even explore it. I also use a reptifog fogger on a timer to go off every 4 hours and it works great. Creats a gentle fog so fine that even when it dissapates nothing is wet but the humidity is noticeabley higher, up to 60 - 65%. So for extremely dry places that is another option. I live on long island and we only have humidity problems from november to march . most of the time our humidity is around 50 - 60% with no added help.
  • 12-20-2014, 01:43 PM
    MontyAndMelissa
    Re: Help with humidity!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Prometheus34562 View Post
    Thanks for the reply, I just tried the tin foil solution earlier and its working great actually!, the humidity even stabilized at a very high percentage that I had to air it out for a bit to keep 55-60, good stuff there. If however it lowers again if my province gets any dryer I will pick up some moss balls to throw in there and perhaps an actual humidifier for the whole room in general.

    Anyway's problem solved for now. Thanks again for replies!

    Just remember, if you get a humidifier for the room it will raise the humidity and it will be harder to get it down to where it should be. I actually have a layer of foil, then on top of that, I have a towel and a blanket. It keeps humidity in, and heat, and is very inexpensive. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...b407e3f6a3.jpg
  • 12-20-2014, 01:48 PM
    MontyAndMelissa
    Re: Help with humidity!
    Also, take a look at your local pet store, the coconut shredding I'm using now holds in humidity well.
  • 12-20-2014, 03:22 PM
    Prometheus34562
    Thanks Monty that's actually the setup I have now as well and its working great! and yes I to am also using coconut substrate (eco earth)
    But thanks for reply everyone, all under control! for now lol
  • 12-21-2014, 12:31 AM
    Reed12321
    Re: Help with humidity!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Prometheus34562 View Post
    Thanks Monty that's actually the setup I have now as well and its working great! and yes I to am also using coconut substrate (eco earth)
    But thanks for reply everyone, all under control! for now lol

    Something that I do to get the humidity up and keep it up is create a moisture producer. I took a plastic cup and stuffed it with paper towels. I wet the paper towels enough so that they're damp and put it under the heat lamp. It creates a more humid environment from the inside, and the tin foil keeps it all in. I used to just put wet towels on the top of the screen, but the problem with doing that is that the moisture in the towel is evaporating in other places besides the tank. Also, the towel will absorb the humidity in the tank once it dries out. But good job getting your humidity up!
  • 12-21-2014, 02:33 AM
    Sauzo
    Also wet towels on top of a screen top will cause the screen top to start to rust. I use tin foil on top and then put in 2 humid hides, 1 on cool side and 1 on warm side and it seems to work ok. Plus putting the CHE over a big water bowl.
  • 12-21-2014, 12:04 PM
    RJimison
    you can try putting the water bowl closer to the heat source as well. That will warm the water and create more humidity. You can also cover half of the opening on top with a hand towel or something that will help insulate and keep the moisture in while still leaving some ventilation openings exposed for air flow.

    I wouldn't worry too much as it will likely fluctuate throughout the day and night. Unless you see shed issues, you should probably be fine.

    I do not do anything extra to bump up the humidity for my bp's, however they are in rack systems which definitely keep humidity in when I spill water or if the animals splash it around (yes I am convinced some of my animals intentionally make water messes in their enclosure. they are special :) )

    any who, you should be good so don't sweat it
  • 12-21-2014, 07:42 PM
    MontyAndMelissa
    Re: Help with humidity!
    I don't use a wet towel, I use a dry one. Just to hold in heat and humidity.
  • 12-21-2014, 09:44 PM
    kaitala
    Re: Help with humidity!
    Lol, "they are special"

    Dont panic. They're hardier than many would have you believe. :)

    If you go to home cheapo or lowes, they have sphagnum moss for orchids. That makes for a great humid hide. And cheap. Soak it, wring it out, then put in a hide. They can go in high humidity or not.
  • 12-28-2014, 01:13 PM
    the I-Many
    Re: Help with humidity!
    What's the difference between tin foil and aluminum foil?
  • 12-28-2014, 01:14 PM
    the I-Many
    Re: Help with humidity!
    I have a hunch one of them is made from aluminum and the other is made from tin.
  • 12-28-2014, 01:14 PM
    SRMD
    Re: Help with humidity!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by the I-Many View Post
    What's the difference between tin foil and aluminum foil?

    Aluminium foil can withstand higher heats I believe.
  • 12-28-2014, 02:25 PM
    gameonpython
    Re: Help with humidity!
    Another thing you can try is the exo terra tree fern panels. You silicone them to the sides of the tank, let it dry for a day or two. They hold humidity really well. I've also heard you can grow things off of them, if that's your thing. I also live in Canada and I got mine from petland. I use them for my tree frogs, and will probably use them again for Marshall's cage. And yes moss is good too. Anyways, hope I helped!


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  • 12-30-2014, 06:58 PM
    Outtagetme069
    Re: Help with humidity!
    I have an exoterra large tall its 36x18x18. I cut plexi and used aquarium caulks to seal the front 2 top vents and it works fine for me. Also use the Eco earth in tank with some moss and haven't had any issues with humidity, only my gauge. Don't get exoterra 2 in 1 gauge they don't work too well.
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