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  • 12-18-2014, 09:22 AM
    Crestiezoo
    Can you identify these morphs? Nuclear Spider x Lemon Blast
    Hi all,


    Apologies for poorly lit photo's, will get some more in the daylight after their first sheds to give more accurate representations of colour. I have had a stab at identifying them myself, but being new to the game (we all start somewhere) I want to make sure I label them correctly.


    Its was a Nuclear Spider (butter, fire, spider) x Lemon Blast (Pastel, Pinstripe) paring


    Haven't popped them yet.


    Here are photo's and what I think they might be:


    https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hpho...6d&oe=550C150D
    Butter Pastel - Although friends have suggested possible Butterfly?

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...95056deb878acd
    Spider - could it be a fire spider? Not sure what to look for with fire.



    https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hpho...84&oe=5509FB65
    This one has confused me, the pattern seems really reduced. From what I see I am thinking Butter spinner, Nuclear Spinner, but any chance its a Nuclear Spinner Blast? (wishful thinking!!) They are all visually such similar combinations.

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...659eb438a7fdd1
    Again another reduced one but not quite as much, again I am thinking Butter spinner, Nuclear Spinner, Nuclear Spinner Blast?


    https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...e4f21e8cf3579d
    Spinner Blast or Firefly Spinner?


    https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hpho...6d&oe=550C150D
    Lemon Blast or Dragon Fly (fire, pastel, pinstripe)?


    Really appreciate peoples opinions :) What Ever the outcome great first time paring - 6 eggs, all good, great variety!
  • 12-18-2014, 09:39 AM
    Crestiezoo
    Re: Can you identify these morphs? Nuclear Spider x Lemon Blast
    And the parents:


    https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...4cccdb90c0272b
    Male - Nuclear Spider

    https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hpho...1b&oe=5503F3CC
    Female - Lemon Blast (sorry she wouldn't stay still)
  • 12-18-2014, 11:34 AM
    PitOnTheProwl
    There is no pin in the last one you listed as a Lemon Blast.
    I would say the two in question def are ? Spinner.
    Would like to see photos after they shed and in better lighting....... Being on my phone probably doesnt help either LoL
  • 12-18-2014, 11:42 AM
    Crestiezoo
    Re: Can you identify these morphs? Nuclear Spider x Lemon Blast
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    There is no pin in the last one you listed as a Lemon Blast.
    I would say the two in question def are ? Spinner.
    Would like to see photos after they shed and in better lighting....... Being on my phone probably doesnt help either LoL

    Thanks for your input, apologies the picture links got jumbled - Correcting them now!

    Edit: I can't actually edit the post now - This is the correct picture for lemonblast/ dragonfly

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...b51afb163ca945
  • 12-18-2014, 11:49 AM
    Ransack
    It looks like two reduced Butter Spinners and a Butter Spinner Blast, Butter Spinners usually have darker and more head pattern, there might be a Nuke Spiinner in there wait till they shed. The one with no head pattern really looks like a Butter Spinner Pastel.

    YOU HIT INSANE ODDS...
  • 12-18-2014, 12:00 PM
    Crestiezoo
    Re: Can you identify these morphs? Nuclear Spider x Lemon Blast
    Thanks, I was over the moon when they all popped out :) Can't imagine I will be parting with many... if any at all!

    - - - Updated - - -

    Thanks, I was over the moon when they all popped out :) Can't imagine I will be parting with many... if any at all!
  • 12-18-2014, 12:27 PM
    AlexisFitzy
    Re: Can you identify these morphs? Nuclear Spider x Lemon Blast
    This is such an beautiful clutch and I agree you got some amazing odds! I hope I get some of the same luck next season :) these babies are so gorgeous and so are the parents. Keep us updated on the little ones, can't wait to see them after they all shed.
  • 12-18-2014, 01:56 PM
    Joe Massey
    thats a very nice clutch..
  • 12-18-2014, 02:34 PM
    BumbleB
    Such an awesome clutch. I hope my odds come out like that when I finally breed
  • 12-18-2014, 04:39 PM
    calmolly1
    Re: Can you identify these morphs? Nuclear Spider x Lemon Blast
    Wow! Just beautiful! I'm no help with morphs yet but the reduced pattern ones are amazing!


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  • 12-19-2014, 06:40 AM
    Crestiezoo
    Thanks for the kind words all :)

    We had equal possibilities of all outcomes individually, each combination had roughly a 3.1% chance of hatching which was super exiting! We had the same chance of a Normal hatching out as a 5 gene combo! The good news was with 5 co-doms in the mix, the highest odds outcomes when combined were 2 and 3 gene combinations. So striking a couple of "potential" 4 gene combo's was great! This is exactly why I paired these two up, the random numbers meant we couldn't really plan for anything, a total guessing game.

    Still, I am wondering if there is a 5 gene in that clutch... I guess a few sheds will help shine light on them :)
  • 12-19-2014, 07:07 AM
    Crestiezoo
    Re: Can you identify these morphs? Nuclear Spider x Lemon Blast
    Ok, going off all of your input and a few other friends of the hobby I am going to revise my "proposed" morphs and links to WOB for reference. Shout at me if you think I have it wrong! I really wont mind :)

    https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hpho...02&oe=5537A57Fhttp://www.worldofballpythons.com/gfx/spacer.gif
    I am still thinking Butter Pastel - http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/butter-pastel/

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...e62e69b861451d
    Dragon Fly (Fire, Pastel, Pinstripe) Purely because of how yellow the spine is - http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/dragon-fly/

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...659eb438a7fdd1
    Nuclear Spinner (Butter, Fire, Pinstripe, Spider) Quite a faded head - http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...stripe-spider/
    (could it be the 5 gene combo though? Still question marks...)

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...8380e834672e8e
    Butter Spinner (Butter, Pinstripe, Spider) Very reduced pattern but a darker head - http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...utter-spinner/


    https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...088ca1fe2d5201
    Firefly Spinner (Fire, Pastel, Pinstripe, Spider) The spinner looks black so unlikely contains butter - http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...refly-spinner/


    https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...56c428c9fd0795
    Fire Spider/ Spider How do you spot the difference!? - http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/fire-spider/
    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/gfx/spacer.gif
  • 12-19-2014, 07:51 AM
    Sirensong26
    I'm no help with morphs, sorry:-/ but this IS a gorgeous clutch!!!! I'm lusting after that butter pastel!
  • 12-19-2014, 01:39 PM
    Ransack
    Re: Can you identify these morphs? Nuclear Spider x Lemon Blast
    Quote:

    Firefly Spinner (Fire, Pastel, Pinstripe, Spider) The spinner looks black so unlikely contains butter - http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...refly-spinner/
    To my eyes it looked like the pinstripes were chocolate brown, but you are holding to snake if after it sheds the pinstriping is black, then yes Fire Fly Spinner, I really agree with as well.
  • 12-19-2014, 02:21 PM
    Crestiezoo
    Re: Can you identify these morphs? Nuclear Spider x Lemon Blast
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ransack View Post
    To my eyes it looked like the pinstripes were chocolate brown, but you are holding to snake if after it sheds the pinstriping is black, then yes Fire Fly Spinner, I really agree with as well.

    Thanks, no worries. To be honest it does look blacker in person, but im still not 100% convinced! I can't wait for their sheds :)
  • 12-20-2014, 11:47 PM
    RJimison
    Here are my best guesses:
    1. Butterfly (fairly confident)
    2. Fire Spider (again, fairly confident)
    3. Nuclear Spinner
    4. Nuclear Spinnerblast
    5. Firefly Spinner
    6. It looks like you accidentally used the same photo for the first animal as the 6th animal. What I am seeing as your 6th photo looks like the same first Butterfly
  • 12-21-2014, 07:07 AM
    Crestiezoo
    Re: Can you identify these morphs? Nuclear Spider x Lemon Blast
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RJimison View Post
    6. It looks like you accidentally used the same photo for the first animal as the 6th animal. What I am seeing as your 6th photo looks like the same first Butterfly

    Hi thanks, yes I did the li ks clearly got crossed over lol. I did correct it in later replies on this thread.

    Thanks for your input :)
  • 12-22-2014, 01:35 AM
    RJimison
    Hi thanks, yes I did the li ks clearly got crossed over lol. I did correct it in later replies on this thread.

    Thanks for your input :)



    Thanks, sorry I missed that.
    Congrats on the killer odds on that clutch.
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