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  • 11-29-2014, 09:49 PM
    Sauzo
    Normal for baby to wander all over?
    For those that read my earlier post, I ended up getting the females baby high white pied for $200. My next question is I got her home, all set up in her cage and now she wanders all over nonstop. Yesterday, she wandered for awhile and then curled up between the corner of the glass tank and her hide and went to sleep im assuming as she didn't move for hours. Today though she has been a busy bee and has just been wandering all over, climbing all over and actually flipping over her cold hide since at the moment its just a cardboard box with a door cut in it. Her warm hide is a sandstone looking rock cave. The weird part is she actually prefers to be out or curled up behind her hide between the corner or the tank and the warm hide. She seems to love to wander and not sit in her hides. Everything seems fine with temps except I cant seem to get the humidity right. Using the acurite thermometer/humidity gauge I have a reading of between 34-36 humidity and that's with covering the top. I am using a ceramic heat element for heating and thinking of switching to a UTH but its been cold up here so doubt a UTH alone will put out enough heat. Anyways, my real question is is it normal for her to be this busy? I know by nature they are quiet and my old bp was a rock inside his hides except when I took him out or it was feeding time.

    Oh btw I got her Friday so its been 2 days if that helps any.
  • 11-29-2014, 10:10 PM
    Reed12321
    Re: Normal for baby to wander all over?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sauzo View Post
    For those that read my earlier post, I ended up getting the females baby high white pied for $200. My next question is I got her home, all set up in her cage and now she wanders all over nonstop. Yesterday, she wandered for awhile and then curled up between the corner of the glass tank and her hide and went to sleep im assuming as she didn't move for hours. Today though she has been a busy bee and has just been wandering all over, climbing all over and actually flipping over her cold hide since at the moment its just a cardboard box with a door cut in it. Her warm hide is a sandstone looking rock cave. The weird part is she actually prefers to be out or curled up behind her hide between the corner or the tank and the warm hide. She seems to love to wander and not sit in her hides. Everything seems fine with temps except I cant seem to get the humidity right. Using the acurite thermometer/humidity gauge I have a reading of between 34-36 humidity and that's with covering the top. I am using a ceramic heat element for heating and thinking of switching to a UTH but its been cold up here so doubt a UTH alone will put out enough heat. Anyways, my real question is is it normal for her to be this busy? I know by nature they are quiet and my old bp was a rock inside his hides except when I took him out or it was feeding time.

    Oh btw I got her Friday so its been 2 days if that helps any.

    you should use a UTH along with the ceramic heating element. The under belly heat is probably what your snake is looking for. With the ceramic bulb above the warm hide, it still won't heat the area inside the hide. Also, if your humidity is off, try putting a larger water dish in there, and/or putting a damp towel inside the tank on the warm side.

    Secondly, give her a few days once you make any adjustments for her to adapt to them. I have 2 babies, one born on August 24th, and the other born on October 5th, and the older one is way more adaptable than the younger one. She wanders around all the tone, but that's also partly due to the fact that I've been treating her for mites for a little while now.
  • 11-29-2014, 11:51 PM
    calmolly1
    Re: Normal for baby to wander all over?
    Mine sleep all day, usually in their hot hides but occasionally in the cool one. Then nighttime comes and night lights go on (red heat bulb) and especially Prec is everywhere. Climbing, exploring, hanging in plants etc. The closer to feeding day the more activity. Come morning light she's back to sleeping.


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  • 11-30-2014, 03:19 AM
    Sauzo
    I picked up a UTH for her but it's only on a rheostat with the probe from the acurite thermometer/humidity unit taped on glass floor right above the pad atm. Using that to read temps and adjusting the rheostat to keep it around 95 degrees at the center of the pad which according to my temp gun puts the paper towel flooring at 90 degrees. She is sleeping now. Guess she is backwards and likes to destroy stuff like knocking down the acurite display and pushing her little hide all over and then sleeping at night. Now I just got to get my red tail boa a new 60x27x16 Proline cage and then I can put the ball python into my 48x23x14 Proline my red tail is in now. Still cant really get the humidity up though even with putting the ceramic heat emitter above the water bowl and covering the screen top with tin foil. Might increase the water bowl size but its already pretty big. Cant really do a wet towel on the flooring as I got paper towel as her substrate at least until she is acclimated. Then I will probably switch her over to aspen like my red tail boa to make cleaning days easier. Anyways thanks for the responses and ideas.
  • 11-30-2014, 07:40 AM
    The Golem
    Re: Normal for baby to wander all over?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sauzo View Post
    For those that read my earlier post, I ended up getting the females baby high white pied for $200. My next question is I got her home, all set up in her cage and now she wanders all over nonstop. Yesterday, she wandered for awhile and then curled up between the corner of the glass tank and her hide and went to sleep im assuming as she didn't move for hours. Today though she has been a busy bee and has just been wandering all over, climbing all over and actually flipping over her cold hide since at the moment its just a cardboard box with a door cut in it. Her warm hide is a sandstone looking rock cave. The weird part is she actually prefers to be out or curled up behind her hide between the corner or the tank and the warm hide.

    Like this?

    http://i60.tinypic.com/11ugj1i.jpg
    Took me a few days to get conditions right and he felt secure enough to go into hide.

    Wandering is good, they are curious and like to explore.
  • 11-30-2014, 09:11 AM
    calmolly1
    Re: Normal for baby to wander all over?
    I'd take the tape out of the enclosure! I know it is buried but trust me if it gets stuck to your snake your talking major vet bill


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  • 11-30-2014, 09:45 AM
    Reed12321
    Re: Normal for baby to wander all over?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by calmolly1 View Post
    I'd take the tape out of the enclosure! I know it is buried but trust me if it gets stuck to your snake your talking major vet bill


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    I used to tape the thermostat probe inside the tank directly to the bottom and I've been scolded by numerous users on here for doing that. The problem is that the warmth will allow the tape to come up easier and if it gets attached to your snake's skin, it can rip the skin off. The other issue (which you won't have since you're using a rheostat) is that if the snake pees or tips the water bowl, it will cause the temps to be read lower. If you're using a thermostat, it will kick the UTH On and potentially burn your snake. Tape the probe to the bottom of the UTH with some heat insulation tape and you can achieve the same thing without risking your snake's well-being.
  • 11-30-2014, 09:49 AM
    calmolly1
    Re: Normal for baby to wander all over?
    I was told tape between UTH and bottom of the tank. On the outside. Works great!


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  • 11-30-2014, 09:52 AM
    Reed12321
    Re: Normal for baby to wander all over?
    Or you could do this.


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  • 11-30-2014, 10:39 AM
    The Golem
    If the UTH is already stuck on, you can use aluminum tape (it's only around $3-4 for small roll) to hold the probe's wire against the UTH.

    http://i58.tinypic.com/vomq9j.jpg

    I read that it's best not to cover the probe itself, which makes sense.
  • 11-30-2014, 04:08 PM
    Sauzo
    Yes he was hiding like that picture in the corner. I think she didn't like her sandstone rock hide. I took it out and put in a little computer parts box I had and she went nuts and now that's her favorite place except at night when she comes out now and destroys everything in the cage except the water bowl but that's because its heavy and she isn't big enough to push that yet. The probe end came with self stick tape on it which I got taped under the paper towels. Good point though, I knew any tape in a snake cage was bad as I got a 5ft baby red tail boa which when she gets hungry, she lets you know by pulling down the wires for her lights and RHP and pushes her aspen into piles. Didn't really think about the tape on the end of the probe though, better move that outside. Thanks.
  • 11-30-2014, 04:21 PM
    blue roses
    Re: Normal for baby to wander all over?
    My little guy is a roamer. As soon as twilight descends, he emerges and roams. He doesn't burrow he climbs, up the rock wall and into his vines. The only time he hides at night is just after he eats for 2 nights, and in shed, and then he covers the hide entrance with his cypress bedding.
  • 11-30-2014, 04:26 PM
    Sauzo
    Well that was painless. It came right up off the floor with tape intact and stuck right to the UTH no problem. Same reading as off the glass while checking with my temp gun so all looks good. Of course Dot(her name as she has 1 little black dot on the end of her tail) wasn't that thrilled about having me lift her box up and sliding her over so I could remove the probe to begin with. She moved about 1/4 inch and stayed there. Then I slid her back over top of the UTH and put her box back over her and back to sleep she went lol. Actually pretty calm little baby for only being in her cage for 2 days.
  • 11-30-2014, 04:30 PM
    Sauzo
    Yeah Dot did the same last night. The minute I turned off the lights to watch tv, she was out. Noticed because she started sliding her box hides all over and they make kind of a swishing noise like boxes being slid over paper towels :P Also she loves to knock over the display for the acurite which makes a crash and generally just destroys everything. Then come morning she is back in her little warm hide and I get to "fix" her cage all so she can redo it again later in the night :)
  • 12-01-2014, 07:24 PM
    jinaragunlark
    Re: Normal for baby to wander all over?
    Oh my god your snake sounds adorable. It's pretty cute that she goes rampaging. My guy likes to sleep during the day, usually one day in hot and one day in cold. At night he's always trying to figure out how to escape.
  • 12-01-2014, 08:00 PM
    Sauzo
    Oh I found out why she is rampaging. She was hungry. She just ate 3 fuzzy mice over the past 2 days. I fed her one yesterday just to try since the rampaging is the same thing my red tail boa does when she is hungry and sure enough she grabbed it and ate it. Then last night she went on the war path again and destroyed her cage again so today I bought her another fuzzy which when it crawled in her hide, all I saw was the hide shake and about 3 minutes later the fuzzy was gone. Then she came out and semi war path so I got another which she grabbed and ate in no time. So the bottom line is I got her black Friday from petsmart during their 50% deal so got a 6 week old female high white pied for$200 which they said was a problem feeder and once I got her set up in her little tank she ate like a horse 2 days later is looking pretty happy. I think I got a pretty good deal. Now if I just didn't live in the dark ages and had a smart phone, I could post pics :P
  • 12-02-2014, 01:48 AM
    Running Elk
    Re: Normal for baby to wander all over?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blue roses View Post
    My little guy is a roamer. As soon as twilight descends, he emerges and roams. He doesn't burrow he climbs, up the rock wall and into his vines. The only time he hides at night is just after he eats for 2 nights, and in shed, and then he covers the hide entrance with his cypress bedding.

    My Mystic Potion wanders. Her bin wasn't closed all the way once while I was doing brief maintenance in her enclosure (refilling water bowls with fresh water), and she slipped out unnoticed for like a minute. Now all she ever wants to do is slip out again. She's like fixated on it, and wanders around the front nudging the front and top of her enclosure.
  • 12-02-2014, 11:41 AM
    blue roses
    Re: Normal for baby to wander all over?
    oh, my little guy loves to try pushing at his screen top, it is an exo terra tank so the clip locks are really secure. I use the front door opening to do maintenance, The front doors swing open and i have a double lock on the front. He learned real fast where the door is, cause when i am done with spot cleaning and water, he is right there looking to try his luck. I also use this opening to take him out to handle, and he seems to learn fast.
  • 12-03-2014, 01:20 PM
    barbie.dragon
    Re: Normal for baby to wander all over?
    Fuzzy mice are probably way too small for a meal. They can eat hoppers right out of the egg :O

    10-15% of their body weight is a good start!
  • 12-03-2014, 01:27 PM
    Sauzo
    Yeah I weighed her last night and she weighs 102 grams so I'm gonna try either a fuzzy rat or hopper mouse.
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