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Breeding rack question

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  • 11-09-2014, 03:22 PM
    Killervector
    Breeding rack question
    I have 18 ball pythons now, first time breeding this year. I have my rack set up for 91 degree belly heat, and 41 qt tubs. I have 4 snakes that are breeding size and want to breed them this year. If I lower the whole racks temps, will the other 8 in the rack slow or stop feeding?
    I'm not wanting to powerfeed them by any stretch, but do want them to continue to grow, as the rest of them will be ready next year, as long as they feed normally, once per week.

    So will cooling the whole rack shut off feeding for the non-breeding size snakes?

    Thanks in advance.
    Chad
  • 11-09-2014, 03:34 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    There is no reason to lower temperatures.
  • 11-09-2014, 03:34 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    It depends on your snakes
  • 11-09-2014, 03:41 PM
    Killervector
    Re: Breeding rack question
    I have heard there isn't any reason to cool them, for sure. But from what I've read, (and yea, I know I'm brand new to breeding...) most people brumate. Curious as to how many here brumate?
  • 11-09-2014, 03:48 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    Ball pythons don't brumate, it would kill them
  • 11-09-2014, 04:03 PM
    Killervector
    Re: Breeding rack question
    I may have misspoken when I said brumate. I simply meant cooling the 7-10 degrees.
  • 11-09-2014, 09:20 PM
    Killervector
    Re: Breeding rack question
    So, how many cool their snakes for a few weeks to encourage breeding?
  • 11-09-2014, 10:10 PM
    Sammiebob
    Re: Breeding rack question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Killervector View Post
    So, how many cool their snakes for a few weeks to encourage breeding?

    I'm planning on lowering temps a little bit
  • 11-10-2014, 01:10 AM
    Killervector
    Re: Breeding rack question
    Me too, unless someone can make a case for not?
  • 11-10-2014, 01:41 AM
    PhoenixGate
    How can you get away with not lowering the temps? They need some sort of environmental trigger to breed.
  • 11-10-2014, 02:20 AM
    Alicia
    Re: Breeding rack question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PhoenixGate View Post
    How can you get away with not lowering the temps? They need some sort of environmental trigger to breed.

    Enough people breed year-round that I am willing to say, no, they don't. I do not lower my temps intentionally (although I do have a small ambient drop of about 3 degrees in room temperature) and never will. There is no reason to with this species, and I would just as soon not risk the possibility of RI.

    My hunch, is that the two environmental factors acting on my personal snakes are the lowered humidity that comes with turning on the central heating, and sharp changes in barometric pressure. I keep a barometer in my studio -- the most intense breeding correlates with barometric change, especially the falling pressure of an incoming storm. Realistically, male will court a female any time of year. If she is in condition, or even just mature enough, that's usually all she needs to begin building follicles.
  • 11-10-2014, 11:52 AM
    CD CONSTRICTORS
    We drop temps from ~89F hot spot to 84F for our females in prime time pairing season (like now). No night drops. Our facility is climate controlled to a stable 72F- 75F ambient year around. Breeder males will stay at 89F when not breeding to help digestion when they are on feed really well (as will babies). We drop males to 87F during breeding season to keep their sperm potent.

    Out of the 99 eggs we produced from 17 females we only had 7 eggs not go to term. A first year 0.1 Albino laid 3 perfect looking eggs that went bad in 2 weeks, a 100% Het Pied that laid 2 slugs, and 0.2 Pastels that each had one egg go bad after a few weeks. We would call a 93% hatch rate pretty good :gj:

    Ask around.... I have heard of a few people that did not drop temps at all last season and had an increased number of slugs from their females.

    We are only going off our experience from the past two seasons. YMMV....
  • 11-10-2014, 12:15 PM
    Killervector
    Re: Breeding rack question
    So it's settled. I'll drop temps from 91, to 85. I think this may be enough to spur pairing. I'll post results as the season progresses. Thanks for the replies!
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