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back heat vs. belly heat

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  • 10-07-2014, 03:01 PM
    watsmyusernameagain?
    back heat vs. belly heat
    back heat vs. belly heat. whats recommended for bp and why
  • 10-07-2014, 03:12 PM
    Eric Alan
    I prefer belly heat for all of my BPs, as it is more efficient (especially so if you have lower than average ambient temperatures).
  • 10-07-2014, 03:15 PM
    watsmyusernameagain?
    Re: back heat vs. belly heat
    more efficient got it. what thermometer do you use other than a temp gun
  • 10-07-2014, 03:17 PM
    Eric Alan
    Re: back heat vs. belly heat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by watsmyusernameagain? View Post
    more efficient got it. what thermometer do you use other than a temp gun

    I don't. I only use my temp gun. Paired with a good quality thermostat, that's all you need.
  • 10-07-2014, 03:27 PM
    watsmyusernameagain?
    Re: back heat vs. belly heat
    haha alright I got a VE-200D and a TG-412L temp gun from reptile basics website and my apartment stays about 75 so I guess I really don't need a thermometer thanks
  • 10-07-2014, 03:44 PM
    speedycat222
    Re: back heat vs. belly heat
    All the cheap little wired probed thermometers are pretty bad, they only give you a general idea of the temperature.
  • 10-07-2014, 04:43 PM
    Velrys
    Ok, just to be clear everyone keeps using the word thermometer. You really need a thermoSTAT to control your hotspot heating element (UTH, bulb) otherwise your hotspot will fluctuate with your ambient temp. And the animal can easily get too hot or be incapable of warming itself sufficiently. Spyder Robotics has a good one. but you can find even zilla brand thermostats at petsmart that will do the job.
  • 10-07-2014, 07:03 PM
    Eric Alan
    Re: back heat vs. belly heat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Velrys View Post
    Ok, just to be clear everyone keeps using the word thermometer. You really need a thermoSTAT to control your hotspot heating element (UTH, bulb) otherwise your hotspot will fluctuate with your ambient temp. And the animal can easily get too hot or be incapable of warming itself sufficiently. Spyder Robotics has a good one. but you can find even zilla brand thermostats at petsmart that will do the job.

    Pssst... reading comprehension much? I'm not sure who the "everyone" is in this thread that you're talking about, but the OP has already said they bought both a quality temp gun (TG-412L) and a proportional thermoSTAT (VE-200D) from Reptile Basics. There's no need to stand on the meter vs stat soapbox here. I'm sure the OP is well aware of their individual functions. ;)
  • 10-07-2014, 07:20 PM
    watsmyusernameagain?
  • 10-07-2014, 08:39 PM
    creatism
    Re: back heat vs. belly heat
    I prefer belly heat, especially with ball pythons, ball pythons like a nice warm spot, being thicker bodied snakes I don't think passive heat works to get the internal temp of the snake up to where they like it.


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  • 10-07-2014, 09:00 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    Re: back heat vs. belly heat
    All of my snakes are on back heat (besides the ones with rhps) and they do just fine, I don't like that the temps are different under the substrate vs on top of the substrate with belly heat. Sure if you use thin substrate it works alright but I got an inch or more of cypress in each cage. I actually run my flexwatt at a lower temp and do not risk burns for digging snakes.

    You can also check out what RBI has to say: http://www.reptilebasics.com/rack_faq

    Quote:

    Do these racks use belly heat or back heat? Which is better?

    RBI Plastics Shoebox and Sweaterbox racks come standard with back heat. Which is better? We have found back heat to be every bit as effective, if not more so, than belly heat. The back heat in these racks will easily warm the back 1/3 to 1/2 of the boxes to a cozy 88-90 degrees. Actually it will get hotter than that if you don't use a thermostat or rheostat which is why one is required. The heat tends to be more even than belly heat which is usually in a more concentrated 3"-4" wide strip across the bottom. The heat gradually tapers off to about 80-82 in the front of the box. Our animals very easily thermoregulate with this setup and we have switched over to entirely back heated rack systems here.

    Is belly heat bad? We dont think so, we just like this better. If you will be setting up the 32 Qt. Sweater Box Rack in a room that is regularly below 74 degrees you may want to consider the belly heat option. On the Shoe box and MCB-S tubs the back heat will provide great performance in all but the coolest of rooms (below 65 degrees). One note, with belly heat racks you MUST place your thermostat probe on the heat tape itself. NOT inside one of the tubs. On the CB-70 rack we install belly heat standard. The extra long CB-70 makes back heat ineffective. The heat tape is recessed into the shelves for years of maintenance free use in all of our belly heat models.
  • 10-08-2014, 03:29 PM
    OctagonGecko729
    Not to mention plenty of professional breeders are now using no heat tape at all. The back vs belly threads are moot now.
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